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ErikaH
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27 Jul 2020 15:57 |
The child aged 1 in 1861 couldn't be the one born 1856
THIS is the one on 1861
AINSWORTH, ALICE (MMN) KNOWLES GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 451
AND.......................... the marriage of her parents
Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%) Ainsworth Thomas Prescot 8b 755 Knowles Sarah Prescot 8b 755
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27 Jul 2020 16:02 |
Alice Hannah Ainsworth born 1856 buried Liverpool Lancashire 18/5/1858.
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ErikaH
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27 Jul 2020 16:11 |
The earlier ALICE
AINSWORTH, ALICE HANNAH (MMN) JENION GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 418
AINSWORTH, ALICE HANNAH 1 GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in WEST DERBY & TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 342
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Yvonne
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28 Jul 2020 18:55 |
Thanks everyone ... have to take a closer look at this, as I said a very confusing family.
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Yvonne
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29 Jul 2021 00:09 |
I've been trying to do some follow-up on this family and have got myself more confused than ever.
My direct line is Mary Jenion married to William Tipping and I'm trying to go further back with the Jenions. Mary's parents were William Jenion and Jane Cowley. William's parents were Henry Jenion and Mary Green.
In 1841 census William is lodging with a Green family, as shown in this thread. The head of the Green family is shown as William age 35, a paviour, and William Jenion as an apprentice paviour. Could William Green be William Jenion's uncle, brother of his mother? Found a birth for Mary for 2 April 1801 with parents Henry and Elizabeth. Then I found a marriage for Henry Green and Elizabeth Genion for 8 April 1800 in Liverpool. This seems weird to me.
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2021 08:40 |
When did Jenion marry Tipping? Do you have the cert?
Why does the 1800 marriage seem ‘weird’?
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2021 09:07 |
Marriage: 14 Jul 1874 St Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England William Tipping - 21, Hay straw dealer, Bachelor, 117 Smithdown Lane Mary Jenion - 22, Spinster, 24 Netherfield Road North Groom's Father: John Tipping, Hay straw dealer Bride's Father: William Jenion, Labourer Witness: Bryan Lunt; Elizabeth Saunders Married by Banns by: Stephen Brain Sutton Register: Marriages 1873 - 1877, Page 38, Entry 76 Source: LDS Film 1656020
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2021 09:13 |
Posting again...........to keep in one 'place'
1871
Name: Mary Jenion Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: 1851 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Hayton Lancashire England Civil parish: Halewood Ecclesiastical parish: Woolton St Nicholas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Hale ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 122 Piece: 3854 Folio: 35 Page number: 29 Household Members Age Relationship Edward Neill 54 Head Sarah Neill 51 Wife Anne Neill 27 Daughter William Neill 21 Son Joseph Neill 18 Son John Neill 17 Son Geo Neill 14 Son Mary Jenion 20 Niece
1851
Name: Mary Jenion Age: 2 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Jane Jenion Gender: Female Where born: Huyton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Huyton Ecclesiastical parish: Huyton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Prescot Sub-registration District: Hale ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Household Schedule Number: 82 Piece: 2193 Folio: 295 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Henry Jenion 65........born Huyton...................Pavier Jane Jenion 26 Mary Jenion 2 Mo
Marriage: 14 Jul 1850 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England William Janion - Full, Paver, Bachelor, Gilbert St Jane Cowley - (X), Full, Spinster, Gilbert St Groom's Father: Henry Janion, Paver Bride's Father: John Cowley, Coffee Roaster Witness: Henry Janion; Mary Janion, (X) Married by Banns by: Tho. Halton M. A. Curate Register: Marriages 1850, Page 223, Entry 445 Source: LDS Film 1656510
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Maddie
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29 Jul 2021 12:00 |
more detail - where they lived
William Last name Tipping Age 21 Birth year 1853 Occupation Hay & straw dealer Marital status Bachelor Year 1874 Marriage year 1874 Marriage date 14 Jul 1874 Place Everton, St Peter Denomination Church Of England Diocese Liverpool Residence 117 Smithdown Lane Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Tipping Father's occupation Hay & Straw Dealer Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Jenion Spouse's age 22 Spouse's birth year 1852 Spouse's marital status Spinster Spouse's residence 24 Netherfield Road North Spouse's father's first name(s) William Spouse's father's last name Jenion Spouse's father's occupation Labourer Witness 1 Bryan Lunt Witness 2 Elizabeth Saunders County Lancashire Country England Archive Liverpool Record Office Archive reference 283-PTR-3-5 Register type Marriages Register year range 1873-1877 Record set Lancashire Banns & Marriages
the o'neill connection
Name: Edward O'Neil Gender: Male Marriage Age: Full Age Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1840 Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Liverpool, St Nicholas' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Edward O'Neil Spouse: Sarah Jennion
Name: Sarah Jennion Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1818 Parish: Huyton, Lancashire, England Search Photos: Search for 'Huyton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Henry Jennion Mother: Mary Jennion Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts Reference Number: Drl/2/42
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ErikaH
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29 Jul 2021 12:49 |
The addresses are on the LanOPC record posted at 09.07
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Maddie
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29 Jul 2021 13:25 |
this appears to be william green from 1841
Marriage: 18 Jul 1825 St John, Liverpool, Lancashire, England William Green - Paviour, Liverpool Mary Orritt - (X), Spinster, Liverpool Witness: John Bushell; William Germain Lea Married by Banns by: David Hewitt Curate Register: Marriages 1820 - 1827, Page 175, Entry 525 Source: LDS Film 1656197
son from 1841 GREEN, WILLIAM ORRETT GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 20 Page 835
Baptism: 5 Jun 1839 St Chad, Kirkby, Lancashire, England William Green - Son of William Green & Mary Born: 3 Jun 1839 Abode: Kirkby Occupation: Pavior Baptised by: R Cort Register: Baptisms 1839 - 1868, Page 2, Entry 14 Source: LDS Film 1545853
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Yvonne
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29 Jul 2021 23:06 |
Thanks everyone, some interesting info. I do think it's strange though that I found a marriage for a Henry Green married to Elizabeth Genion 8 April 1800, parents of Mary Green b. 2 April 1801. I think this is a different family than mine. Why - because I have my Henry and Mary marrying 2 January 1809 - or am I missing something here?
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ErikaH
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30 Jul 2021 09:28 |
Henry Green is an incredibly common name
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Maddie
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30 Jul 2021 12:20 |
a tree on ancestry re elizabeth jenion
Elizabeth jennion 1777–1815 Birth 28 FEB 1777 • Wavertree, Childwall, Liverpool, Lancashire Death 1815 • Huyton, Lancashire, England
Name: Betty Jenyons Gender: Female Birth Date: 28 Feb 1777 Christening Place: Childwall, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Jenyons Mother: Mary Jenyons
Name: Elizabeth Genion Gender: Female Marriage Date: 08 Apr 1800 Marriage Place: Saint Peter Church Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Spouse: Henry Green
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HENRY JENION 1742–1813 Birth 1742 • Little Woolton, Lancashire, England Death 19 DEC 1813
MARY WAKENSON 1740–1822 Birth 1740 • Lancashire, England, United Kingdom Death 3 NOV 1822
Name: Mary Wakenson Gender: Female Marriage Date: 23 May 1765 Marriage Place: Childwall, Lancashire, England Spouse: Henry Jenyens
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Yvonne
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30 Jul 2021 21:01 |
Thanks Maddie, I’ll have a look at these.
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