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Yvonne
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1 Jul 2020 20:44 |
I'm trying to find William Jenion in the 1841 census. He was living with his parents, Henry and Mary, and his siblings Margaret, Henry, James and Thomas. A while ago I found him but the name has been spelled so many different ways over time and I didn't make a note of how it was spelled in the 1841 census. I keep trying different variations but so far no luck. They were living in Huyton Village nr. Liverpool. Thanks.
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1 Jul 2020 20:55 |
View1841 England Census View blank form Add or update information Report a problem Name: William Jennison Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Huyton Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Hutton Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 512 Book: 7 Folio: 5 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Henry Jennison 25 Mary Jennison 20 William Jennison 4 Henry Jennison 2
Same parents names but no siblings Margaret orThomas,,,,,,,,perhaps the others were on the 1851 census,?
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Yvonne
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1 Jul 2020 21:08 |
Thanks Kay, certainly looks like them. Wonder where I got the other sibs from.
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Yvonne
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1 Jul 2020 21:14 |
Just found the other reference in 1841 - the name was spelled Genson. This one was the one I found previously. This one gives William's age as 10. Both references give parents as Henry and Mary.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jul 2020 22:39 |
For our reference:
William Genson in the 1841 England Census Name: William Genson Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Huyton Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Hutton Neighbors: Piece: 512 Book: 7 Folio: 29 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Henry Genson 50 - pavier Mary Genson 50 Margarett Genson 20 Henry Genson 15 - pavier William Genson 10 James Genson 9 Thomas Genson 2
The whole family born in Lancashire.
So which is the one you are looking for? How did you work back to him?
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Yvonne
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2 Jul 2020 04:13 |
William is the father of Mary Jenion (b. 1851 in Huyton) and Mary was married to William Tipping. William Jenion was married to Jane Cowley.
The father of William Jennison shown above has agricultural labourer as his occupation, the father of William Genson is shown as pavier in 1851 census, so I'm leaning towards the Genson one being the correct one, unless someone can persuade me differently.
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2 Jul 2020 08:01 |
Did the marriage certificate say Henry was a pavier?
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2 Jul 2020 09:49 |
Don't guess - find the facts
Name: Jane Cowley Gender: Female Marital status: Single Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1850 Marriage Place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father: John Cowley Spouse: William Janion Father: Henry Janion**********************PAVER FHL Film Number: 93924
Name: William Janion Gender: Male Christening Date: 3 Jul 1827 Christening Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Janion Mother: Mary Janion
Name: Henry Jennion Gender: Male Marriage Date: 2 Jan 1809 Marriage Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Spouse: Mary Green
Name: Betsey Gender: Female Birth Date: 18 Jun 1809 Baptism Date: 16 Jul 1809 Baptism Place: Huyton By Roby, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Jennion Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 1068859
1851
Name: Henry Jenion Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1786 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Huyton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Huyton Ecclesiastical parish: Huyton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Hale ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Piece: 2193 Folio: 295 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Henry Jenion 65 Pavior******************************************************* Jane Jenion 26 Daughter in Law Mary Jenion 2 Mo
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ErikaH
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2 Jul 2020 10:01 |
Name: Margaret Jennion Gender: Female Christening Age: 0 Birth Date: 29 Sep 1816 Christening Date: 10 Nov 1816 Christening Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Jennion Mother: Mary Jennion
Name: Ann Jennion Gender: Female Christening Date: 29 May 1814 Christening Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Jennion Mother: Mary Jennion
Name: Sarah Jennion Gender: Female Christening Date: 1 Nov 1818 Christening Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Jennion Mother: Mary Jennion
Name: Mary Jennion Gender: Female Christening Age: 0 Birth Date: 31 Oct 1811 Christening Date: 19 Jan 1812 Christening Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Jennion Mother: Mary Jennion
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2 Jul 2020 10:06 |
1851
Name: William Janion*******************Pavior [William Jennion Janion] Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Huyton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
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2 Jul 2020 10:13 |
Name: Mary Green Gender: Female Christening Age: 0 Birth Date: 17 Dec 1784 Christening Date: 2 Jan 1785 Christening Place: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father: Henry Green Mother: Ann Green
Name: Henry Green Gender: Male Marriage Date: 1769 Marriage Place: Huyton By Roby, Lancashire, England Spouse: Ann Moody FHL Film Number: 1068859
Name: Henry Green Birth Date: 28 Jun 1749 Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1749 Parish: Huyton, Lancashire, England Father's name: Henry Green Mother's name: Ann Green Register Type: Bishops Transcripts
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2 Jul 2020 10:17 |
Death:
Name: Age at Death (in years): JENION, WILLIAM 31 GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 367
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Yvonne
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6 Jul 2020 00:12 |
Thanks everyone. To me it looks like there are two Henry and Mary families. I've sent for the death certificate for William to see if that helps any, but not expecting much. Sorry for the delay getting back - in process of moving house.
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ArgyllGran
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6 Jul 2020 11:51 |
Erika has posted the marriage of William to Jane Cowley, which shows that his father's occupation was pavier.
Therefore I think it's safe to assume that the 1841 census with William aged 10, and father Henry a pavier, is the correct one.
And, given the birth of daughter Margaret in 1816 (not to mention older daughters Ann and Mary) , it also seems safe to assume that the 1809 marriage of Henry Jennion to Mary Green in Huyton is the correct marriage of his parents.
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Yvonne
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14 Jul 2020 22:36 |
Just received the death certificate for William Jenion. As stated above, he died in 1859 - dod 30 January 1859 of chronic disease of the brain, father Henry present at death. I also looked at the children of William Jenion and Jane Cowley - Mary (1851), John (1852), Elizabeth (1854) and Margaret (1861). Since William died in 1859 and Margaret was born in 1861, it got me wondering if I had the right family, so I got the birth cert for Margaret. There is no father shown on the birth cert. However, in 1861 census she has a lodger, Thomas Rushton, but by 1871 census Thomas is shown as head and Jane working as housekeeper. I couldn't find them in 1881.
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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2020 22:52 |
For our reference:
Thomas Rushton in the 1861 England Census Name: Thomas Rushton Age: 35 Estimated birth year: 1826 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Little Woolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Huyton Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Huyton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 111 Piece: 2741 Folio: 74 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age Jane Jennison 36 Mary Jennison 10 John Jennison 8 Elizabeth Jennison 6 Thomas Rushton 35
Thomas Rushton in the 1871 England Census Name: Thomas Rushton Age: 46 Estimated birth year: 1825 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Childwall Lancashire England Civil Parish: Whiston Ecclesiastical parish: Whiston St Nicholas Town: Whiston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 138 Piece: 3860 Folio: 84 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Rushton 46 Jane Sennion 45 Margaret Sennion 9
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14 Jul 2020 22:58 |
Record Transcription: 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pottery Lane, Whiston, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Rushton Head Single Male 56 1825 Laborer General Lancashire, England Jane Gennion Servant Widow Female 55 1826 House Keeper Carlow, Ireland xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ellen Tipping Visitor Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Whiston, Lancashire, England
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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2020 23:00 |
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Thomas Rushton in the 1881 England Census Name: Thomas Rushton Age: 56 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Little Woolton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Whiston County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Pottery Lane Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Laborer General Registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: Piece: 3728 Folio: 85 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Rushton 56 Jane Gennion 55 - servant, widow, housekeeper Ellen Tipping 6 - visitor, scholar, Whiston
??? TIPPING, ELIZABETH ELLEN mms JENION GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 663
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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2020 23:06 |
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Jane Seaner in the 1891 England Census Name: Jane Seaner Gender: Female Age: 65 Relationship: Boarder Birth Year: 1826 Birth Place: Ireland Civil Parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Tunstead Residence Place: Stacksteads, Newchurch, Lancashire, England Registration district: Haslingden Sub registration district: Newchurch ED, Institution or Vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 3346 Folio: 112 Household Members: Name Age Mary Whealen 40 John Wm Whealen 19 Mary Whealen 17 Martin Whealen 15 Bartley Whealen 13 Jane Seaner 65 - widow, housekeeper.
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ArgyllGran
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14 Jul 2020 23:09 |
Marriage of parents of young Ellen Tipping ??:
Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%) Jenion Mary W. Derby 8b 571 Tipping William W. Derby 8b 571
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