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I am looking for any details of any Wife or Dependants or . Next of Kin for William Smith. Able Seaman age 26 when he died on the Titanic in 1912. . Would any records have any of this information. ? . Thanks Pam

Mr William Smith, 26, was born in Birmingham. When signed on to the Titanic on 6th April 1912 he gave his address as 42 Bridge Street, Southampton. His previous ship was the Minnewaska. His wages were £5 a month. Smith died in the sinking. His body, if recovered, was never identified.
Deck Crew

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-victim/william-smith.html#credits

could this be him in 1911 wife older then him only gives inital of name

W Smith
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name:
W Smith
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1911
Event Place:
Portsmouth, Southsea Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
County:
Hampshire
Parish:
Portsmouth
Sub-District:
Portsmouth And Mid Southsea
Sub-District Number:
4
District Number:
90
Enumeration District:
5
Registration District:
Portsmouth
Gender:
Male
Age:
26
Marital Status:
MARRIED
Marital Status:
MARRIED
Occupation:
GENERAL LABOURER
Industry:
MORRICON AND MASON CONTRACTORS BUILDERS
Number in Family:
9
Birth Year (Estimated):
1885
Birthplace:
Birmingham Warick, Warwickshire
Relationship to Head of Household:
Boarder
Schedule Type:
284
Page Number:
1
Registration Number:
RG14
Piece/Folio:
567
Affiliate Record Identifier:
GBC/1911/RG14/05597/0567/8
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Levi Haynes Head Male 50 Hazelwood Derby, Derbyshire
E M Haynes Wife Female 38 Southsea, Hampshire
A Haynes Son Male 13 Southsea, Hampshire
E Haynes Daughter Female 11 Southsea, Hampshire
L Haynes Son Male 8 Southsea, Hampshire
G Haynes Son Male 6 Southsea, Hampshire
H Haynes Son Male 4 Southsea, Hampshire
W Smith Boarder Male 26 Birmingham Warick, Warwickshire
E Smith Boarder'S Wife Female 35 Fratton, Hampshire
J Mccoy Boarder Male 39 Aldershot, Hampshire

could be his marriage
Name:
William Smith
Birth Date:
1885
Age:
21
Spouse's Name:
Ellen Watkins
Spouse's Birth Date:
1887
Spouse's Age:
19
Event Date:
31 Jan 1906
Event Place:
Kenilworth, Warwick, England
Father's Name:
Joseph Smith
Spouse's Father's Name:
Edward Watkins
Marital Status:
Single
Spouse's Marital Status:
Single

Thanks for all your help, Can anyone access the electoral roll for 1912 with his address he gave as 42 Bridge St Southampton to see who else was living with him ..Pam

This one was on the Minnewaska the year before?

State New York
First name(s) William F
Last name Smith
Gender Male
Marital status S
Departure year 1911
Departure day 16
Departure month 8
Departure port London
Destination port New York
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Minnewaska
Ship official number 124674
Ship master's first name THOMAS F
Ship master's last name GATES
Shipping line ATLANTIC TRANSPORT
City LONDON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship registered tonnage 8877
Number of passengers 127
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, United States, Americas

1911 Census For England & Wales
Royal Navy At Sea and in Ports Abroad, Ships and Overseas Establishments


First name(s) William F
Last name Smith
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 25
Birth year 1886
Birth place St Georges Birmingham Warwick
Occupation -
House name -
House number -
Street -
Address -
Parish -
County Royal Navy At Sea and in Ports Abroad
Country Ships And Overseas Establishments
Archive reference RG14
Registration district number 640
Enumeration district 1
District number 1
Sub district number 2
Census reference RG14PN34971 RD640 SD2 ED1 SN9999
RG78 code number 0
Piece number 34971
Folio -
Page -
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Record set 1911 Census For England & Wales
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

EDIT no not this one as he is still at home with family in 1911.

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)

Smith William Frederick Birmingham 6d 181

SMITH, WILLIAM FREDERICK mmn SHUCK
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 181

Parents
Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)

Shuck Ellen Birmingham 6d 85
Smith Frederick William Birmingham 6d 85

I think I will order his death certificate Might reveal more Thanks Pam

Maybe of interest...?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/hampshire/hi/people_and_places/history/newsid_8623000/8623112.stm

This is the only death record of a William Smith, aged 26, registered from April to December 1912.

Is this him?
Or do you know something different? (You say you're going to order his death cert.)

SMITH, WILLIAM ERNEST 26
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 149

This is the record of when he joined Titanic.

His address looks more like 12 Bridge Road to me, and it doesn't specify Southampton, although maybe that's assumed because the men were signing on in Southampton.


W Smith
in the UK, RMS Titanic, Crew Records, 1912
Name: W Smith
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Brommgham On Tyne
Ship Name: Titanic
Port: Southampton
County: Hampshire
Registry Date: 6 Apr 1912
Record Type: Crew Agreements
Reference Number: BT100/259

There was a Bridge Road in Erdington, Birmingham, with Smith families at nos 24 and 82 per the 1911 Census summary books, but not at 12 or 42.

Or if it's Bridge Street, there certainly was such a street in Southampton, though I don't see either 12 or 42 in the 1911 census summary books, nor in the actual census records..
At nos 21-22 there was the Wheatsheaf pub, per the summary books, although in the actual census the Wheatsheaf comes before no 14, which is before no 16.


There was also a Bridge Road in Southampton.
In 1911, at no 12 there was Jack Franks, and family, plus a servant and a boarder - not William Smith.
Looking for no 42 - the records jump from no 40 (Mrs Anne Elizabeth Chenneour and two "business partners", all launderers, to no 44 (Edith Slade and son).

Pam

How do you connect to this man? Do you know anything about him that you haven't told us that could help us to help you?

The address on the siging-on register is definitely Bridge ROAD, but ,as has been said before, no town is mentioned

Aged 26 on 6/4/1912 - born between 6/4/1885 and 5/4/1886

Given in details connected to to Smithy family tree but the surname Smith can be a difficult one. Thanks Pam

I am re-visiting this post to try and find any other details about the William Smith that was born in 1886 Birmingham and died on the Titanic in 1912. I need to try and find any spose or children or confirm who his Father/Mother was but having the name Smith is so much harder. Thanks for all the previous help. Pam

Pamela, Have you bought the death cert?

I need to find the death registration details, not sure if its under England /Wales Deaths Thanks Pam

This thread says that death certs for "Titanic" victims were issued in Halifax, Nova Scotia - but only those whose bodies were recovered and identified.

https://tinyurl.com/yybnbhrv

Elsewhere on the encyclopedia-titanica site it says (and already posted by Catherine):

"Smith died in the sinking. His body, if recovered, was never identified."

Therefore, according to the info on the thread, there would have been no death cert issued.

And more on the topic of death certs for Titanic victims:

https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/23693-Death-certificate-for-death-at-sea