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I have a copy of a register which reads John Jones bachelor and Elizabeth Thomas spinster both of this parish, were married in this church by banns with consent this 26th day of June 1815 by me John Williams, Minister.

In the presence of Griffith Owen and what looks like Robert Roberts.

The marriage was solemised between us, John Jones and the mark of Elizabeth Thomas.

Where the copy of what I have says Parish- this was not photo copied. From other like pages I have looked at the parish name was up the top of the page which has obviously not been captured in the copy I have.

I have searched every website I can think of and cannot find a record of this marriage, I was looking for the banns really to get some more information, but cant find anything at all. There must have been a marriage because I have the copy of the entry.

It would have been in Wales.

Would you have any suggestions as to where I could look please, I have tried BMD and it's too early, nothing on Ancestry or the Genealogist and have tried to google it, but nothing. Have even tried a worldwide search in case by chance it was not in Wales, but I would be very suprised if it wasn't.

John Jones
Wales, Caernarvonshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
Name:
John Jones
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
26 Jun 1815
Event Place:
Denio, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Thomas

Thanks Malyon, thats great, and Denio fits, would you know how I could view the banns please. Just where to look would help, I couldnt find anything at all.

Jonett Jones
Wales Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907
Name:
Jonett Jones
Gender:
Female
Christening Date:
14 Apr 1816
Christening Place:
DENEIO,CAERNARVON,WALES
Father's Name:
John Jones
Mother's Name:
Elizabeth

Thats a suprise, havnt got that child, could it possibly be Jennett. The plot thickens!!

Is there any way, would you know, to view the marriage banns, all I really would like to know is was John Jones a Hatter?

if you can find him on the cenus 1841 it might say do you know when he was born and where

From the 1841 census he was born Llancynfelin, Treddol. Occ. Hatter.

I should clarify, I know he was a Hatter, just trying to prove that this is his marriage entry. Am sure that it is, just wanting the proof.

Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
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County Caernarfonshire
Place Deneio
Church name St Deneio
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 31
Marriage date 26 Jun 1815
Groom forename John
Groom surname JONES
Groom parish Deneio
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname THOMAS
Bride parish Deneio
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 Griffith OWEN
Witness2 Robert ROBERTS
Transcribed by Sandra Clifford
Credit Sandra Clifford
File line number 112

try here

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

Don’t think the old parish records show the occupations

Ok, thank you Shirley. Is it possible to view the banns anyway just in case it has any more information than I already know.

Record Transcription:
Caernarvonshire Baptisms
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First name(s) Jonett
Last name Jones
Birth year 1816
Birth date ? ? 1816
Baptism year 1816
Baptism date 14 Apr 1816
Place Denio
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Page 21
Archive type Baptisms
Archive year range 1813-1894
Record set Caernarvonshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain


john is a hatter

Thank you safc, fortunately a hatter is a rare occupation, which helps. I thought I had all their children but didn't have this one.

Also Jonett is a rare name, I googled it, nothing came up, almost a combination of John and Elizabeth.

The first of the 11 children I found was an Elizabeth born 1819.

Deborah ...............

those early records usually show no more than the marital status of the groom and bride (ie, Bachelor/Spinster vs Widower/Widow).

It's very unusual to see occupation on the marriage and even rarer to see it on the Banns ............. at least, that is my experience.

It is a bit more common to see the father's occupation on a baptism, but then often the mother's name is omitted!

I looked at FreeReg

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


This is the entry on there ..............

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5a36b412f493fde821ea48f0/elizabeth-thomas-john-jones-marriage-caernarfonshire-deneio-1815-06-26?locale=en

County Caernarfonshire
Place Deneio
Church name St Deneio
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 31
Marriage date 26 Jun 1815
Groom forename John
Groom surname JONES
Groom parish Deneio
Groom condition bachelor
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname THOMAS
Bride parish Deneio
Bride condition spinster
Witness1 Griffith OWEN
Witness2 Robert ROBERTS
Transcribed by Sandra Clifford
Credit Sandra Clifford
File line number 112



oops, sorry ............... I didn't take in that safc had posted this

from FreeReg .........

County Caernarfonshire
Place Deneio
Church name St Deneio
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 14 Apr 1816
Person forename Jonett
Person sex F
Father forename John
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname JONES
Transcribed by Misty Abernathy
Credit John Roberts
File line number 666



May I suggest that you take JOnett with a pinch of salt until/unless you can actually see the Parish Register entry for yourself.

JEnett was a relatively common name in those days, and I'm seriously wondering whether the handwriting in the Register is bad or hard to decipher so that every transcriber is seeing the "e" as an "o".

OH has the name in one of his ancestral lines from the 16th to the early 18th centuries, and there are various spelling ...... Jenet/Jenett/Jennet? etc

I may be wrong in my suggestion ................

the name turns up again. I wonder if there is a connection?????


County Caernarfonshire
Place Deneio
Church name St Deneio
Register type Parish Register
Burial date 21 May 1821
Burial person forename Jonett
Burial person surname JONES
Person age 71
Transcribed by Glen Jenkins
File line number 167


In fact, it turns out to be quite a common spelling in Caernarvonshire at one time

You can view the image of the Parish Register for Jonett's baptism on FindMyPast. The transcript was posted above without attribution

https://search.findmypast.com.au

It is very clearly JOnett ........ very clear handwriting!!

John's occupation is shown as Hatter.

Place of Residence Pwllheli

Caernarvonshire Baptisms

First name(s) Jonett
Last name Jones
Birth year 1816
Birth date ? ? 1816
Baptism year 1816
Baptism date 14 Apr 1816
Place Denio
County Caernarvonshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Page 21
Archive type Baptisms
Archive year range 1813-1894
Record set Caernarvonshire Baptisms
Category Life Events (BDMs)