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Ellen Catton
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Ellen Catton
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 11 Nov 1936
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Shipping line: Cunard White Star Limited
Official Number: 164282
Master: R B Irving

Travelling with Helen Lubbock. Address in UK: Peter Lubbock Travel, London W.



NOT this one - posting for elimination - this is a married woman, husband Harold Kattan:

Ellen Kattan
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Ellen Kattan
Gender: Female
Age: 41
Birth Date: abt 1909
Departure Date: 7 Sep 1950
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Daeen Mary
Shipping line: Cunard White Star Limited
Official Number: 164282
Master: H Grattidge

Yes Shirley i have the baptism & my granddads WW1 service history records, he went AWOL & got all the children out of the poor house, my mother always said it was Dr Barnardo but i've never found any record to prove that only the poor house bless them.

Catherine my grandmother had consumption & died when my mother was 12, she was unable to care for the children

Nellie was a Nurse, I've got photos of her & one of her in her late teens, i suppose its always poss that she went to New York

Thank you very much ladies for your efforts to help me

Rosie Was 19 when she died. Nellie would of been 24 when she left & 28 if she got on that Ship..........
Quite a possible chance ArgillGran

Helen Lubbock was back in Adhurst St Mary in 1939:

Helen Lubbook
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Helen Lubbook
[Helen Lubbock]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Jul 1896
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Adhurst St Mary Steep
Residence Place: Petersfield, Hampshire, England
Occupation: Private Means
Schedule Number: 83
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: EEPV
Registration district: 103-1
Inferred Spouse: Alan Lubbook
Household Members:
Name
Alan Lubbook - Army Major, RA
Helen Lubbook
David G Longman - General farm worker
Jerie Macnaughton - [Jessie ] housekeeper
Alice M Calthpole - [ Catchpole ]] housemaid
Margaret T Coleman - Under housemaid
Frank J Richardson - footman

Also one closed record after Frank Richardson.

No, that Ellen, lady's maid, isn't your Ellen .
Here's the 1936 outward journey from the US records -


Ellen Hannah Catton
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ellen Hannah Catton
Arrival date: 17 Nov 1936
Birth Date: abt 1907
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Worplesdon
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Friend's Name: A T Henderson
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary

.....thats 12 years age difference, i know they lied about their age in those days but thats a big lie

Thank you ArgyllGran.......... i must admit a few extra pairs of eyes has been great....it's driving me nuts

Just had a reply from a lady on ancestry that says that her Helen May Battershll nee Catten was a nurse & asked if my Ellen May Catten was possibly a Nurse

Mr Battershill married again in the 1950s & she says she thinks she married again too

:-D

As shown on posts above (page 1) , she married Ernest Smith in 1946.

You are right ArgyllGran ..... best way forward with this now is that Catten/Battershill marriage cert,if its her then hopefully she didn't lie about my grandad being her dad