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Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann
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2 Aug 2017 15:22 |
Looking for Elizabeth Ambrose, father Robert Ambrose who may have been married to May Ann Pape. Elizabeth, I think, was born in 1865 and married Nicholas James Davis in 1887. Need more info on her and her parents as have been unable to verify on any census. Robert was already deceased when Elizabeth married. He was listed as being a Railway Plate Layer and may have been born in 1833. Unfortunately, though I have found certain info re both Elizabeth and Robert, I have been unable to cross ref with other info such as census to be able to verify it. Many thanks for any help anyone may be able to provide.
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2 Aug 2017 15:26 |
Can you give a location please. :-)
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AMBROSE, ELIZABETH ANN PAPE Order GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 328
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2 Aug 2017 15:30 |
Civil service evidence of age Transcription Learn more
Print transcription View image First name(s) Elizabeth Ann Last name Ambrose Birth year 1865 Birth date 19 Sep 1865 Place Penzance County Devon Country England Event type Birth Reference Z 167809 199/1 Record set British Civil Service Evidence Of Age Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain, England
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2 Aug 2017 15:30 |
So the marriage was in Plymouth, is that where they were both from? Just to give us an idea where to look.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%) Ambrose Elizabeth Ann Plymouth 5b 526 DAVIS Nicholas James Plymouth 5b 526 Doney Thomas Alfred Plymouth 5b 526 Skedgwell Maria Plymouth 5b 526
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2 Aug 2017 15:35 |
1891 census - her sister with them,
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription London Inn Court, Vauxhall Street, Plymouth, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth Davis Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Worthymill, Tavistock Devon, England Elizabeth M Davis Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Plymouth, Devon, England Emma Ambrose Sister Single Female 13 1878 - Plymouth, Devon, England
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2 Aug 2017 15:36 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: DAVIS, ELIZABETH MAUD AMBROSE Order GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 229
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: AMBROSE, EMMA PAPE Order GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 249
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2 Aug 2017 15:37 |
Sister Emma
AMBROSE, EMMA PAPE Order GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 249
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2 Aug 2017 15:37 |
1901] Name Elizabeth Davis Age 34 Estimated Birth Year abt 1867 Relation to Head Wife Gender Female Spouse Nicholas J Davis Birth Place Plymouth, Devon, England Civil parish Plymouth Search Photos Plymouth, Devon, England Ecclesiastical parish St Luke County/Island Devon Country England Registration district Plymouth Sub-registration district St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel 24 Piece 2102 Folio 122 Page number 26 Household schedule number 157 Household Members Name Age Nicholas J Davis 38 Elizabeth Davis 34 Elizabeth M Davis 11 Florence M Davis 1
1911 Name E Davis Age in 1911 45 Estimated Birth Year abt 1866 Relation to Head Wife Gender Female Birth Place Tavistock, Devon Civil parish Devonport Search Photos Devonport, Devon, England County/Island Devon Country England Street Address 65 Station Road, Keyham, Barton, Devonport Marital Status Married Years Married 24 Estimated Marriage Year 1887 Registration district Devonport Registration District Number 278 Sub-registration district Stoke ED, institution, or vessel 10 Household schedule number 552 Piece 13037 Household Members Name Age N J Davis 48 E Davis 45 F Davis 11 S Davis 9 F Davis 7 S Davis 5 V Davis 2
Name Elizabeth A Davis Birth Date abt 1865 Date of Registration Jun 1921 Age at Death 56 Registration district Devonport Inferred County Devon Volume 5b Page 375
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2 Aug 2017 15:38 |
another sister Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: AMBROSE, MARY ANN PAPE Order GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 107
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2 Aug 2017 15:49 |
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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 17, Ham Street, Charles the Martyr, Plymouth, Devon, England
Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 52 1799 Joiner & House Carpenter Employ 4 Men Cornwall, England Mary Ambrose Wife Married Female 58 1793 - Plymouth, Devon, England William Hy Ambrose Son Unmarried Male 28 1823 Joiner & House Carpenter Journeyman Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription Robert Ambrose Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Joiner & House Carpenter Journeyman Plymouth, Devon, England <<<<<<<
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2 Aug 2017 15:54 |
?? Robert Last name Ambrose Birth year 1832 Birth date ? ? 1832 Baptism year 1832 Baptism date 30 Nov 1832 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Plymouth, Charles the Martyr Father's first name(s) Robert Mother's first name(s) Mary County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
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2 Aug 2017 15:57 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 23, Clarence Street, Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England
Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 28 1833 Joiner & House Carpenter Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription Eliza Ambrose Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Devon, England Transcription ... H Ambrose Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription Robert G Ambrose Son - Male 1 1860 - Plymouth, Devon, England
AMBROSE, ROBERT GEORGE DAVEY Order GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 236
Eliza here married as carpenters wife but husband not on census?
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Clarence Street, Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England
Eliza Ambrose ( nee Davey) Head - Female 40 1831 - Devon, England Transcription William Ambrose Son - Male 13 1858 - Devon, England Transcription Robert Ambrose Son - Male 11 1860 - Devon, England Transcription Frederick Ambrose Son - Male 9 1862 - Devon, England Transcription Louisa Ambrose Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Devon, England Laura Ambrose Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Devon, England Louisa Orchard Visitor - Female 64 1807 - Hampshire, England
So maybe not the right Robert unless he had a second family....
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2 Aug 2017 15:58 |
1841 Hill Place, North, Charles the Martyr, Plymouth, Devon, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Robert Ambrose Male 40 1801 - Transcription Mary Ambrose Female 45 1796 Devon, England Transcription William Ambrose Male 18 1823 Devon, England Transcription Mary Ambrose Female 16 1825 Devon, England Transcription Louisa Ambrose Female 14 1827 Devon, England Transcription Emma Ambrose Female 11 1830 Devon, England Transcription Robert Ambrose Male 8 1833 Devon, England
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2 Aug 2017 16:00 |
Was looking at this earlier and discounted as an Eliza not May but would fit with those census above
Devon Marriages Transcription First name(s) Robert Last name Ambrose Age 24 Birth year 1832 Marriage year 1856 Marriage date 16 Nov 1856 Denomination Anglican Place Plymouth, St Andrew Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Ambrose Spouse's first name(s) Eliza Spouse's last name Davey Spouse's age 26 Spouse's father's first name(s) Richard Spouse's father's last name Davey County Devon
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2 Aug 2017 16:05 |
sister - plymouth family Mary Ann Last name Ambrose Age 19 Birth year 1868 Marriage year 1887 Marriage date 26 Jun 1887 Denomination Anglican Place Plymouth, St Saviour Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Ambrose ----- contracter deceased Spouse's first name(s) James Hocking Spouse's last name Kingdom Spouse's age 20 Spouse's father's first name(s) John Hocking Spouse's father's last name Kingdom County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Marriages Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from England, Great Britain
Mary Ann Last name Ambrose Birth year - Baptism year 1869 Baptism date 08 Dec 1869 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Exeter, St Mary Steps Father's first name(s) Robert Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Mother's last name - County Devon Country England
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2 Aug 2017 16:10 |
Not seeing an Ambrose/Pape marriage at all - so could this be another child or a coincidence? Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: AMBROSE, WILLIAM HENRY PAPE Order GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 521
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2 Aug 2017 16:14 |
Print transcription View image First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Ambrose Owner's first name(s) Mary Ann Owner's last name Ambrose Street Chester Place Place Plymouth County Devon Year 1869 Date Apr 1869 Event Poor rate books Archive reference 1645-24-1-1 Record set Plymouth & West Devon Rate Books 1598- 1933 Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Rate Books Collections from England, Great Britain
EDIT this is 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chester Place, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England
M A Ambrose Head - Female 73 1798 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription Lydia Gallis Servant - Female 69 1802 - Devon, England Transcription F P Fisher Lodger - Male 26 1845 - Devon, England Transcription M A Ellis Servant - Female 54 1817 - Devon, England
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2 Aug 2017 16:18 |
baptism for above William Henry Last name Ambrose Gender Male Birth year 1863 Baptism year 1863 Baptism date 25 Nov 1863 Baptism place SAINT MARY,SWANSEA,GLAMORGAN,WALES Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Ambrose Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Place Swansea County Glamorganshire Country Wales Record set Wales Births & Baptisms 1541-1907 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Wales, Great Britain
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2 Aug 2017 16:24 |
Address as per 1861/1871 census
Plymouth Rate Books 1598 - 1933 Transcription
First name(s) Robert Last name Ambrose Occupier's first name(s) Robert Occupier's last name Ambrose Street Clarence Street Place Plymouth County Devon Year 1869 Date Apr 1869 Event Poor rate books Archive reference 1645-24-1-1 Record set Plymouth & West Devon Rate Books 1598- 1933
but also this address for a Robert Ambrose
Plymouth Rate Books 1598 - 1933 Transcription
First name(s) Robert Last name Ambrose Occupier's first name(s) Robert Occupier's last name Ambrose Street Nelson Street Place Plymouth County Devon Year 1869 Date 1869 Event Poor rate books Archive reference 1645-24-1-2
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2 Aug 2017 16:36 |
?Death of Eliza nee Davey born c 1831 - would fit age on 1861/71 census
Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%) AMBROSE Eliza 45 Plymouth 5b 187
? and of Robert b c1833 Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%) Ambrose Robert 82 Devonport 5b 599
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