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2 Aug 2017 16:41 |
OP says Robert Ambrose was listed as a Railway Plate layer (deceased) at the 1887 marriage of Elizabeth, so above Robert wouldn't fit unless for some reason he was said to have died (maybe because of the second family Nyx suggested!).
The census that show him have him as a Joiner/Carpenter.
The marriage of daughter Mary Ann also 1887 shows him as a contractor deceased
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2 Aug 2017 16:49 |
The Crimean War was 1853-1856
1911 census England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 5 Whittington St Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Robert Ambrose Head Married Male Crimean Veteran 78 1833 Devon Plymouth Louisa Ambrose Wife - Female - 59 1852 Devon Plymouth
Said to have been married 20 years 5 children born and 5 living
-------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%) Ambrose Robert Plymouth 5b 446 Bulley Louisa Plymouth 5b 446 Cailes Priscilla Jane Plymouth 5b 446 Hunt Francis Plymouth 5b 446
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2 Aug 2017 16:55 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 1, Watson Gardens, Plymouth, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 68 1833 Carpenter & Joiner Plymouth, Devon, England Louisa Ambrose Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Devonport, Devon, England
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2 Aug 2017 16:57 |
Deaths Sep 1871 (>99%) Ambrose Robert 72 Plymouth 5b 157
Deaths Dec 1871 (>99%) Ambrose Mary Ann 74 Plymouth 5b 238
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2 Aug 2017 17:08 |
??????????????? Robt Last name Ambrose Birth year - Year 1865-75 Regiment 54th Foot Regiment / service number as transcribed 54 Ft Pension year 1852 Series Wo 23 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission Books, Registers, And Papers 1702-1876 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 23 Piece number 59 Piece description 51-70 Foot. Year range 1865-1875 Record set British Army Service Records
date of admission 1852
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2 Aug 2017 17:09 |
Deaths Mar 1866 (>99%) Ambrose William H 2 Penzance 5c 258
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2 Aug 2017 18:24 |
The Cornish Telegraph - Wednesday 14 March 1866
Deaths: At Adelaide Street, in this town on the 10th inst,. Wm. Henry, son of Robert Ambrose, aged 2 years
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Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann
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3 Aug 2017 11:26 |
Dear NYX, GreyGhost and Maddie, Thank you soooo much for the very comprehensive info! A lot of it is spot on for the Davis side - I have all the certificates - for the Ambrose side you have provided me with info I have not been able to find/verify myself. So very grateful. Do you think that "Joiner and House Carpenter Journeyman" may be roughly the same as "Railway Plate layer"? One more question please - I have subscribed to the Platinum membership and paid for access to Parish Records but cannot find how to access these and Genes have not replied to my email about it yet. How do I access them? Very frustrating! Many thanks again. I am overwhelmed with your help! :-)
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Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann
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3 Aug 2017 11:28 |
Thank you also Austin Q
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3 Aug 2017 11:33 |
Hi Lesley, I don't use this site for records, but if you go to "Search" at top of page, click on it and then on "Search records", then "Births .Marriages, Deaths" you should see a long list of records available which include all the Parish records. Hope that helps.
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3 Aug 2017 12:30 |
As well as the death for a William in Penzance there is also this one in Exeter, though I am not seeing a birth?
AMBROSE, WILLIAM HENRY 2 Order GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 258
AMBROSE, WILLIAM HENRY 2 Order GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 75
Has anyone found Emma on the 1881 census?
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3 Aug 2017 13:22 |
A platelayer (British English) or trackman (American English) is a railway employee whose job is to inspect and maintain the permanent way of a railway installation.[1] The term "platelayer" derives from the plates used to build plateways, an early form of railway.[
did he change occupation ????
have checked these records but no result All UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 results for Robert Ambrose
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Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann
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3 Aug 2017 13:58 |
Many thanks again all for the comprehensive info you have provided. I am going to spend the next few hours going through it all. :-)
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3 Aug 2017 17:05 |
Devon Cemetery Burials 1848-1974 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Ambrose Age 74 Birth year 1797 Residence 11 Chester Place Plymouth Home parish St Andrew Death year 1871 Burial year 1871 Burial date 23 Dec 1871 Parish Ford Park Cemetery Place Plymouth, Ford Park Cemetery Denomination General Grave type Common Memorial reference Section AH, No.4, Row 23 County Devon Country England Document reference 2595/9 Repository Plymouth & West Devon Record Office --------------------------------------------
Devon Cemetery Burials 1848-1974 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Robert Last name Ambrose Age 72 Birth year 1799 Residence 14 Clifton Street Ply Home parish Charles Death year 1871 Burial year 1871 Burial date 13 Aug 1871 Parish Ford Park Cemetery Place Plymouth, Ford Park Cemetery Denomination Church Grave type Common Memorial reference Section AH, No.33, Row 5 County Devon Country England Document reference 1015/8 Repository Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Burials
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3 Aug 2017 17:30 |
Does the plot thicken??
Robert Ambrose marries Eliza Davey 1856. Eliza dies 1876.
The 1881 and 1891 for Robert haven't been posted as yet -
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Elm Road Manna, Compton-Gifford, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 48 1833 Carpenter Plymouth, Devon, England Elizabeth Ambrose Wife Married Female 43 1838 - Plymouth, Devon, England Fredrick C Ambrose Son Single Male 19 1862 None Plymouth, Devon, England Louisa E Ambrose Daughter Single Female 17 1864 - Plymouth, Devon, England Laura M Ambrose Daughter Single Female 11 1870 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Right Robert with 3 of the children from his marriage to Eliza Davey but his wife is Elizabeth
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3 Aug 2017 17:35 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) ROBERT Last name AMBROSE Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1877 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT AMBROSE married Elizabeth Gill District Plympton District number - County Devon Country England Volume 5B Page 347
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First name(s) Robert Last name Ambrose Age - Birth year - Marriage year 1877 Marriage date 27 Feb 1877 Denomination Anglican Place Pennycross, St Pancras Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Ambrose Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Gill Spouse's father's first name(s) Nathaniel Spouse's father's last name Gill County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Image shows Robert as a Widower, a Builder by trade and of the parish of Charles, Plymouth. Father Robert a Builder.
Elizabeth is Spinster of Weston Mill, Pennycross, daughter of Nathaniel Gill a Seaman
Witnesses Richard and Ann Doidge
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3 Aug 2017 17:39 |
By 1891 Robert (although a little older than usual ) is shown as a Widower
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Sir Frances Drake, Camden Street, Plymouth, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Henry Harding Head Married Male 56 1835 Publican Devon, England Mary J Harding Wife Married Female 59 1832 - Devon, England Sarah L Lloyd Sister In Law Widow Female 54 1837 Living On Her Own Means Devon, England Sarah M Lloyd Niece Single Female 27 1864 Milliner Devon, England John Palmer Boarder Widower Male 50 1841 Pensioner Devon, England Robert Ambrose Boarder Widower Male 62 1829 Carpenter Devon, England
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3 Aug 2017 17:39 |
and Elizabeth's death
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) ELIZABETH Last name AMBROSE Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1837 Age 52 Death quarter 4 Death year 1889 District Plymouth County Devon Volume 5B Page 159
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3 Aug 2017 17:41 |
But can't find Robert with a Mary Ann and can't find Elizabeth Ann or Mary Ann Ambrose mmn Pape between Birth and marriage nor Emma after her birth apart from 1891 with Elizabeth
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Chris Ho :)
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3 Aug 2017 17:57 |
Does below fit anywhere? (apologies if already added)
Chris :)
Baptism Day Month 03-Nov Year 1865 Parish Or Reg District Madron, Penzance Chapelry Forename Mary Elizabeth Surname AMBROSE Sex dau Father Forename Robert Mother Forename Mary Ann Residence Adelaide Street Father Rank Profession Labourer
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Burial Day Month 14-Mar Year 1866 Parish Or Reg District Madron, Penzance Chapelry Forename William Henry Surname AMBROSE Age 2 Residence Adelaide Street Notes Transcriber Notes Src: Register of Churchyard & Consecrated part of Burial Board Cemetery
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
(from above link)
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