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6 Aug 2016 09:06 |
Help have hit a brick wall. I'm searching for Adolphus Curtoise Campbell born 1826 in Limehouse London Middlesex parents were William and Annie Susannah Campbell. I know he went to sea as I have found info of Trinity House Certificates for 3rd mate dated 01/01/1848 and 2nd mate dated 01/01/1849. He settled in Australia in 1952, I have all Australian info, he died on 18/02/1875. I'm looking for his early life in England. Thanks in advance for any help you may supply me with.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Aug 2016 09:12 |
Have you tried Family Search site for his parents marriage and his birth
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Aug 2016 09:19 |
he isnt showing on any census
as he was a mariner its likely he was at sea at 1841 census time
the only thing fmp brings up is the ref to the marine certs you already know
Family Search brings this up which you probably have anyway
Adolphus C Campbell Occupation Quartz Miner Death Date 18 Feb 1875 Event Place Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Residence City Sandhurst Event Date 11 Mar 1875 Series Number 13 Record Number 875
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Aug 2016 09:24 |
and this Adolphos Campbell United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records Name Adolphos Campbell Event Type Military Service Event Year Range 1845-1854 Event Place United Kingdom Birthplace Middlesex Birth Year 1820
which is probably the Trinity house records
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Dea
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6 Aug 2016 09:52 |
His baptism here shows a different spelling to his middle name:
Name: Adolphus Curtoys Campbell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 24 May 1829 Father's name: William Campbell - Mariner Mother's name: Susanna Campbell Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers Born May 18th 1826.
Could someone with worldwide access please check that this is the same death reg as you already have above as this one shows full middle name?
Australia, Death Index 1787 -1985 Adolphus Curtys Campbell
I presume that this is a brother to Adolphus?
Name: Frederick Noble Campbell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1831 Father's name: William Campbell - Mariner Mother's name: Ann Susanna Campbell Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers Born 21st March, 1830. Abode - Stepney.
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Victor
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6 Aug 2016 10:00 |
Thanks Dea, Looks promising. Will keep researching.
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Dea
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6 Aug 2016 10:10 |
This is the family though no sons are 'at home' on these census's:
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription York Square, Stepney, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place William Campbell Male 50 1791 - Mariner Transcription Ann S Campbell Female 40 1801 - Transcription Susanna C Campbell Female 9 1832 Middlesex, England Transcription Elizabeth Dunnahough Female 20 1821 - Female Servant
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Narrow Street, Saint Anne Limehouse, Stepney, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Campbell Head Unmarried Male 62 1789 Sail Maker Dover, Kent, England Transcription A S Campbell Wife Married Female 65 1786 Sail Maker's Wife Deal, Kent, England Transcription S C Campbell Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 Sail Maker's Daughter Stepney, Middlesex, England Transcription H Campbell Grand Son - Male 12 1839 Sail Maker's Grand Son Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Cawpar Servant Unmarried Female 28 1823 House Servant Scotland Transcription Mary Turpin Servant - Female 16 1835 Servant House Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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6 Aug 2016 10:20 |
Just to confirm the sister Susanna :
Name: Susannah Eleanor Campbell Image says 'Susannah COLEMAN Campbell !!! Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1832 Father's name: William Campbell - Mariner Mother's name: Ann Susannah Campbell Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers Born 12th Nov. 1831.
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6 Aug 2016 10:39 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Claringbold House, St Peter the Apostle, Thanet, Kent, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Ann Susannah Campbell Head - Female 77 1794 - Kent, England - widow Transcription Susannah C Baines Daughter - Female 38 1833 - Middlesex, England - widow Transcription Keith C Baines Grandson - Male 12 1859 - Middlesex, England Transcription Harriet Cairn Servant - Female 52 1819 - Sussex, England Transcription Sarah Green Servant - Female 28 1843 - Kent, England Transcription Sarah Pot Servant - Female 15 1856 - Kent, England Transcription George Pot Servant - Male 24 1847 - Kent, England
Marriages Sep 1857 (>99%) Baines James William Epping 4a 55 Campbell Susannah Coleman Epping 4a 55
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Victor
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6 Aug 2016 11:11 |
Thanks Dea will pass on info to my family in Oz, they have been researching for years. I was out there in May of this year and said I research from here. Once again many thanks. Pat
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Aug 2016 13:13 |
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/20942/page/357/data.pdf
(reference for Adolphus, Trinity House, from 'google search, also coming up, below names)
Frederick Curtoise Campbell 1862 - 1928
Adolphus Edwin Campbell
(both Australia)
Chris :)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
(above Newspapers Australia, very often 'throws' up things!)
Edits (2 Probate articles Adolphus 1875, search Curtoys Campbell)
Victoria Deaths 1836-1985 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Adolphus Curtys Last name Campbell Age 48 Sex Male Birth year 1827 Death year 1875 Father's name William Mother's name Susannah Annie State Victoria Registration number 2686
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Aug 2016 13:33 |
(wondered about below?, apologies, but shed clearing here at present!, so can't stay, lunch break, lol)
Chris :)
Canterbury Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) William Last name Campbell Marriage year 1812 Marriage date 09 Nov 1812 Place Deal, St Leonard Spouse's first name(s) Anne Susannah Spouse's last name Levitt Groom's parish Deal Bride's parish Deal County Kent Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives (Witnesses, Mary Elizth. Campbell, John Levitt, Edw(M)und Foreman)
Canterbury Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Ann Susanna Last name Levett Baptism year 1796 Baptism date 15 Jan 1796 Place Deal, St Leonard Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Susanna County Kent Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives Archive reference U3/95 Year range 1787-1809
Edits (perhaps not relating to Adolphus!, as they had below, Deal, Kent Baptisms)
Campbell Susanna 1813
Campbell William Manuel Levitt 1815
Campbell Frederick Robert 1818
(Father occ. Mariner, Griffin Street, Lower Deal, for boys, Alfred Square, Susanna)
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Victor
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6 Aug 2016 13:42 |
Thanks Chris. will follow through on both messages, first one different, second one possible.
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Patricia
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18 Oct 2016 17:39 |
ADOLPHUS CURTIOSE CAMPBELL. Still looking for ihfo from DOB 1826 to 1848 when he got his 3rd mates certificate from Trinity House. He's not on any UK census, his sister Susanna is on the 1841 census aged 9 but not Adolphus who would have been 15 or his brother Frederick Noble Campbell who would have been 10. Have all info on Adolphus's life in Australia and Frederick's life in New Zealand. Where did William and Annie Susanna hide them, at sea, at boarding school, with other relatives, who knows? Many thanks to all who have already helped.
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18 Oct 2016 18:25 |
Adolphus Curtoise CAMPBELL View Tree Gender Male
Birth 1826 Limehouse, Middlesex England
Death 18 February 1875 Panton St, Kangaroo Flat, Victoria
Burial 21 February 1875 grave 1185 Kangaroo Flat, Victoria
PARENTS Father William CAMPBELL
Mother Annie Susannah (not known) Curtoise??
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malyon
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18 Oct 2016 18:27 |
Susannah CAMPBELL View Tree Gender Female
Birth 14 September 1859 Forest Creek, Victoria
Death about 1937
PARENTS Father Adolphus Curtoise CAMPBELL
Mother Julia KEENAN
MARRIAGES (1) Spouse James ADAMSON
Marriage 1885
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malyon
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18 Oct 2016 18:29 |
Pedigree Resource File - Pedigree Resource File Frederick Curtoise CAMPBELL View Tree Gender Male
Birth 30 May 1862 Chewton, Victoria
Death 9 June 1928 425 Chapple StreetBroken Hill, N.S.W.
Burial 10 June 1928 A row Grave 9 Broken Hill, N.S.W.
PARENTS Father Adolphus Curtoise CAMPBELL
Mother Julia KEENAN
MARRIAGES (1) Spouse Frances Alice LUKE
Marriage 25 June 1884 St Marks C of E Bendigo, Victoria
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Patricia
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27 Oct 2016 16:10 |
I Know Adolphus Curtoise Campbell was at sea in 1848 as have Trinity house registration number for 2nd mate, but need info of him from birth 1826 to 1848, he may have gone to sea at 15 years of age. Also any info on his parents William and Ann Susanna Campbell, who were they and where did they originate from? Have found 2 sets of Wiliam and Ann Susanna Campbell, one in London and the other in Deal Kent. William the Mariner, the sail maker, tor a ship owner. Thanks for info already given, have all Australian info as have been there and met family. Pat
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27 Oct 2016 20:54 |
Chris Ho has already posted a possible marriage for them.
First name(s) William Last name Campbell Marriage year 1812 Marriage date 09 Nov 1812 Place Deal, St Leonard Spouse's first name(s) Anne Susannah Spouse's last name Levitt Groom's parish Deal Bride's parish Deal County Kent Country England Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives Archive reference U3/95 Year range 1805-1812 Page 234
Possible birth for William?
First name(s) William Last name Campbell Birth year 1788 Birth date 22 Sep 1788 Baptism year 1788 Baptism date 08 Oct 1788 Place Dover, St Mary the Virgin Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Kent Country England Archive Canterbury Cathedral Archives Archive reference U3/30/1/5 Year range 1738-1795
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28 Oct 2016 00:04 |
In 1841, someone aged 15 +/- 5 years, would be away at work unless the family was wealthy.
Children went to work sometimes as young as 7.
I suggest searching the census on both ancestry and FMP (they have different transcriptions), using as many wild card symbols as you can .......... it replacing letters with the * symbol. This will pick up most wrong transcriptions, wrong spellings etc.
There must be a minimum of 3 letters, and searching usually works better if you do not replace the initial with *
Then try searching only on surname, birth year +/- 5 years, and England (do not use county or place on the 1841
Remember that the age of somebody over 15 on the 1841 was supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 ............... hence why I say look for 1826 +/- 5
Then try searching on forename using the same parameters as above ...... but that'll be a long job.
Finally, try searching on only initial letters for both forename and surname inc ase he was in an asylum, hospital or jail.
However, so far as I know, there was no census taken of ships at sea or out of England.
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