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Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1874

BAILEY Walter Ernest Tranmere Wirral TRA/19/50

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(and)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873

BAILEY John GRIFFITHS Grace Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/61/285

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

(quite a discussion on below!)

Chris :)


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=631469.27

Walter Bailey and Margaret Gallagher - Middlesbrough

(Walter's parents John Bailey and Grace Griffiths appear to have married in Liverpool in 1873. By 1881 they are living in Durham and they did indeed have an Walter Ernest BUT he fibbed about his age as he was actually born in Birkenhead, Cheshire in 1874!! So when he married in 1913 saying he was 33, he was actually 38/39. I have Margaret and Walter residing in Motherwell at the time of their marriage in 1913)

Chris- (Good find!) it certainly sounds as though they're discussing the same Walter (although Sheila does need to purchase the marriage cetificate for Walter and Lily to confirm).

This is taken from the link Chris put up:

"You needed to stay in Scotland because that is where Walter Bailey married Margaret Gollagly on 8/11/1913 in Glasgow (strange they come up as Walter and Margaret in the index but when you view the certificate it just has 'W' and 'M'. He was 33, son of John Bailey, Ship Plater and Grace, nee Griffiths - both shown as deceased. She is 21, dau. of James Gollagly, Tailor (journeyman) and Helen, nee Mills.

Although they married in Glasgow the address for them both is given as 27a Parkhead Street, Motherwell"
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And, although the age is wrong for Walter, it does seem to fit with these parents:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Major Street, Stockton on Tees, Stockton, Durham, England

John Bailey Head Married Male 39 1852 Ship Plater Bunbury, Cheshire, England
Grace Bailey Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Walter E Bailey Son Single Male 16 1875 Steam Engine Maker Apprentice Birkenhead, Cheshire
Edith G Bailey Daughter - Female 15 1876 - Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Joseph E Bailey Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Gertrude E Bailey Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Stockton, Durham,
John W Bailey Son - Male 2 1889 - Stockton, Durham, England
Albert Bailey Son - Male 1 1890 - Stockton, Durham, England

Following on from Chris's find, the only Walter Ernest Bailey death in Scotland is this one


1919 BAILEY WALTER ERNEST M 0 GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/21 0769


Spent a few credits and looked at it and he's the son of Walter and Margaret. His father Walter Ernest is an Engine fitter (Sapper R.E.). His father was the informant.

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Walter E Bailey
Military Year: 1914-1920
Rank: Sapper
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps: Royal Engineers
Regimental Number: 259212
Previous Units: Royal Engineers. 259212. Pnr.

Perhaps ties in with AustinQ's find re schools. Charge of guardian in 1912 due to a death

Name: John Bailey
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Stockton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 61