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Alan

Alan Report 7 Nov 2015 14:25

I would like to know if anyone can help me with any information about my Grandfather, Frank Vary (he was later known as Patrick Vary) I know he was born in a workhouse in Bedford on the 15th Feb 1902 to an Ellen Vary (formerly Reen). Father Thomas Vary. But Frank does not appear on the 1911 Census. I know he was in the army during the 1920 but that's all. Could anyone suggest ways of finding him, from 1902 to 1920.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 14:29

just for reference



Frank Vary

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name Frank Vary
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1902
Registration District Bedford
County Bedfordshire
Event Place Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Volume 3B
Page 300A
Line Number 66

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 14:33

Family history research in Bedfordshire


www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/.../FamilyHistoryResearchInBedfordshire.aspx

Find out if anyone else has done work on your family by contacting a local Family History Society, such as Bedfordshire Family History Society which will usually have ...

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Nov 2015 14:34

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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription View image
First name(s) FRANK PATRICK
Last name VARY
Gender Male
Birth day 15
Birth month 2
Birth year 1902
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1979
District CROYDON
County Surrey
Volume 11
Page 1789
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 14:37

bingo!!!!



Frank Patrick Vary

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name Frank Patrick Vary
Event Type Death Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1979
Registration District Croydon
County Surrey
Event Place Croydon, Surrey, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969) 15 Feb 1902
Volume 11
Page 1789
Line Number 85

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 14:40

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Name Patrick F Vary
Event Type Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1950
Registration District Croydon
County Surrey
Event Place Croydon, Surrey, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Bourne
Volume 5G
Page 192
Line Number 71

Patrick F Vary probably married one of the following people
Name Joan K Bourne

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 14:41

??????????

Name Patrick F Vary
Event Type Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1929
Registration District Dover
County Kent
Event Place Dover, Kent, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Lee
Volume 2A
Page 2017
Line Number 41

Patrick F Vary probably married one of the following people
Name Annie E Lee

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 14:44

?????????????????

Name Kathleen L De Vear
Event Type Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1938
Registration District Wandsworth
County London
Event Place Wandsworth, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Vary
Volume 1D
Page 758
Line Number 106

Vary probably married one of the following people
Name Frank Vary

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2015 15:17

Just a chance that the P is mistranscribed as D? as there is no other Frank Vary birth to match this DOB

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION (PREVIEW)
Vary Household
Croydon C.B., Surrey, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) BIRTH YEAR
Frank D Vary 1902
Annie C Vary is also on this record
2 more people who are officially closed

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2015 15:25

5 Children born to the Vary/ Lee marriage can be found on freebmd.org.uk

malyon

malyon Report 7 Nov 2015 15:36

could this be he's mother 1901


Ellen Vary
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name Ellen Vary
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
County Hampshire
Civil Parish Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical Parish St James Milton
Sub-District North End And Buckland
Registration District Portsmouth
Gender Female
Age 31
Occupation NEEDLEWOMAN
Relationship to Head of Household Prisoner
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace London
Page Number 7

malyon

malyon Report 7 Nov 2015 15:47

parents marriage

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
view
Reen Ellen Kensington 1a 390 Scan available - click to view

VARY Thomas Kensington 1a 390

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2015 15:47

Ellen?

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
VARY Ellen 44 Islington 1b 153

slightly out on DOB perhaps?

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
REEN Ellen I. Wight 2b 533

would suggest perhaps that Frank might be in school (or orphanage ?) in 1911 but I can't find him as yet.

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2015 15:49

?

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Nichols Elizabeth Islington 1b 792
Sandwell James E Islington 1b 792
Smith Mary A Islington 1b 792
Vary Thomas Islington 1b 792 <<<<

Same area that Ellen died so a possible 2nd marriage

malyon

malyon Report 7 Nov 2015 15:51

this is the only birth i can find for ellen reen

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
REEN Ellen I. Wight 2b 533

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 16:28

I sent a message to Alan but he hasn't opened it yet

Rambling

Rambling Report 7 Nov 2015 16:35

NOT THIS ONE

1891 for Ellen,


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Daniel Reen Head Married Male 59 1832 Coachman Ireland
Elizabeth Reen Wife Married Female 57 1834 - Ireland
William Reen Son Single Male 24 1867 Gardener Ireland
Robert Reen Son Single Male 11 1880 - Ireland
Jane Reen Daughter Single Female 28 1863 Dressmaker Chatham
Mary Reen Daughter Single Female 26 1865 Dressmaker Chatham
Ellen Reen Daughter Single Female 24 1867 - -Isle of Wight on image
Sarah Reen Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Aldershot, Hampshire, England

Posting this really in order to work forward to see if Frank was with one of his relatives in 1911 ?

EDIT so it doesn't look as if it is this Ellen as she is still at home in 1901 and single
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
51, Cecil Road, Wimbledon, Kingston, Surrey, England


Elizabeth Reen Head Widow Female 68 1833 Living On Own Means Cork, Cork, Ireland T
Mary Reen Daughter Single Female 33 1868 Dressmaker Chatham, Kent, England
Ellen Reen Daughter Single Female 30 1871 - Hampshire, England

and 1911

Elizabeth Reen Head Widow Female - 78 1833 New Market Cork Resident
Marie Reen Daughter Single Female - 42 1869 Rochester
Ellen Reen Daughter Single Female Ironer 40 1871 Isle of Wight
Robert Reen Son Single Male House Painter 33 1878 Kildare Ireland

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 20:28



Ellen Reen

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index

Name Ellen Reen
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1892
Registration District Kensington
County London
Event Place Kensington, London, England
Volume 1A
Page 390
Line Number 253

Ellen Reen probably married one of the following people

Name Thomas Vary

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Nov 2015 20:42

the majority of the Reen's in Kensington hail from Ireland

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Nov 2015 01:43



Surrey, England, Regimental Rolls, 1914-1947

Name: Patrick Vary
Birth Year: abt 1901
Birth Place: Bedford, Bedfordshire
Event Date: 1 Aug 1922
Event Place: Kingston-on-Thames
Age: 21
Regiment Number: 7076155
Regiment: Queen's Royal West Surrey

from image:-

Place of Attestation:- Kingston-on-Thames
Trade on Enlistment:- Labourer
Place of Birth:- Bedford, Bedfordshire
Next of Kin:- Mother Ellen Vary, 36 Foster (??sp) Rd, W. Croydon