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ErikaH
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7 May 2021 16:30 |
The Margaret Fairclough whose baptism is posted is unlikely to be the one who married James Dennett.
The baptism is C of E.
James and 'his' Margaret were RC, as per Thomas's baptism
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Name: Margaret Fairclough Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Registration Year: 1870 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 61 Registration District: Ormskirk Inferred County: Lancashire
Name: Margaret Fairclough.......unmarried Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: 1809 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Ormskirk Town: Ormskirk County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Ormskirk Sub-registration District: Ormskirk ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household Schedule Number: 34 Piece: 2765 Folio: 95 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Fairclough 52 Robert Fairclough 23..........Son
These two are also on 1851
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Yvonne
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7 Nov 2021 22:42 |
I'm adding to this thread so as not to cause repetition.
I have Thomas Dennett born 1848 married to Anne Birchall. In 1871 census Thomas and Anne are shown with two children - Louisa b. 1869 (my direct ancestor) and May b. 1871 I couldn't find any reference to May anywhere else but I did find a Mary Dennett b. 1871 with father Thomas. This Mary died 5 months old on 2 June 1871. Could Mary be May? I also found a Thomas Dennett b. 15 January 1872 with mother, Anne (formerly Birchall), but I've been unable to find Thomas anywhere after the birth. I suspected he'd died but the only death I can find that seems possible is June qtr 1872, Prescot 08B/385 age 0. Could this be my Thomas?
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ArgyllGran
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7 Nov 2021 22:53 |
May was born as Mary: May is often a "pet" form of Mary - as in the case of my own mother, officially Mary, but always known as May.
Birth: DENNETT, MARY mmn BIRCHALL GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 641
The death you found seems very likely.
Death: DENNETT, MARY 0 GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 545
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ArgyllGran
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7 Nov 2021 22:55 |
Re Thomas:
Birth: DENNETT, THOMAS mmn BIRCHALL GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 660
?? Death - again, very likely:
DENNETT, THOMAS 0 GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 385
But the only way to know for sure is to buy the death certs.
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ArgyllGran
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7 Nov 2021 23:11 |
On page 2, LondonBelle posted 1891 census for Thomas with children James and Margaret.
Just in case you don't have it (though I expect you do) , here they are in 1881:
Thos. Dennett in the 1881 England Census Name: Thos. Dennett Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Eccleston in Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 1 St Thomas Street Marital status: Widower Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Pot Maker <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration District: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 17a Neighbors: Piece: 3735 Folio: 131 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Thos. Dennett 32 Louisa Dennett 12 James Dennett 7 Margt. Dennett 4
Annie Dennett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Annie Dennett Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place: Prescot, Lancashire, United Kingdom Death Date: Sep 1876 Inferred Death Place: Lancashire, United Kingdom Volume: 8b Page: 459
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Yvonne
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7 Nov 2021 23:40 |
Thanks. I suspected that May and Mary might be one and the same.
Of course, when I go into the GRO site the only death not showing a mother’s maiden name is the one I think is Thomas! I guess I’m going to have to get that certificate.
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ArgyllGran
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8 Nov 2021 08:30 |
GRO website doesn't show mother's maiden name on any death records - only on births.
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Yvonne
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10 Nov 2021 18:26 |
I now have the death certificate mentioned above for Thomas and it's not my Thomas. This death certificate shows that he was the son of George Dennett and died age 7 months. I guess I'm back to square one. The only other death in the Prescot registration district is again in 1872 but he was 3 years old when he died.
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ArgyllGran
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11 Nov 2021 17:21 |
Hmmm - that's a pity.
For our reference - the family in 1881 with no sign of Thomas.
Annie had died in 1876.:
Louisa Dennett in the 1881 England Census Name: Louisa Dennett Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Thos. Dennett Gender: Female Where Born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston in Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 1 St Thomas Street Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration District: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 17a Neighbors: Piece: 3735 Folio: 131 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Thos. Dennett 32 - widower Louisa Dennett 12 James Dennett 7 Margt. Dennett 4
There's this burial as a possibility:
Thomas Dennett in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name: Thomas Dennett Gender: Male Death Age: 0 Birth Date: 1872 Death Date: abt 1872 Burial Date: 14 Jan 1872 Burial Place: Prescot, Lancashire, England FHL Film Number: 1657598 Reference ID: Pg145 Ln1154
I wonder if the age of the child in the death record below was 3 weeks rather than 3 years as implied:
DENNETT, THOMAS 3 GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 428
If not, then there's no other death record to relate to the burial.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Nov 2021 18:31 |
Father
Thomas Dennett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Order death certificate for Thomas Dennett Add or update information Report a problem Name: Thomas Dennett Death Age: 67 Birth Date: abt 1850 Registration Date: Oct 1917 [Nov 1917] [Dec 1917] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Prescot Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 727
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Yvonne
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12 Nov 2021 00:05 |
I've ordered the death certificate for the 3 year old Thomas on the off-chance that it might be him. Fingers crossed.
The burial on 14 January 1872 is definitely not him as he wasn't born until 15 January 1872!
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ArgyllGran
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12 Nov 2021 22:22 |
There's also this death, of a child who definitely was 3 years old:
Thomas Dennett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Thomas Dennett Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place: Prescot, Lancashire, United Kingdom Death Date: Sep 1875 Inferred Death Place: Lancashire, United Kingdom Volume: 8b Page: 454
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Yvonne
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15 Nov 2021 22:46 |
I've just received the death certificate for the 3 year old Thomas and it looks like it is my Thomas. It says he died on 5 September 1875 at the age of 3 years 8 months, and since my Thomas was born in January 1872 it looks like it could be the one. The informant was given as Thomas Dennett, father, potmaker at glassworks. Everything seems to fit.
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2021 08:47 |
Good! Thanks for letting us know, Yvonne.
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