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Hi Prickly

Yes I think I have found him. It looks like he was in the workhouse

Kind regards

Christina

Christina

You say in a PM to me that you have his birth certificate.............

What exactly does it say about his parents, please.

LancsBMD shows that Albert and Annie were registered in the St George district of Manchester

I would be surprised if the family I posted in 1891 census is not the couple who married in 1881

The marriage cert won't help with finding info about your father

As I asked previously, do you have any idea of his wife's name?

The twins were born in the second half of 1897, and would be only 3 in 1901..........assuming that the death I posted isn't Annie

Any comment on that record, Christina?

ADDED

Not much doubt I would think

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BOOTH Annie 0 Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/162/66

You didn't mention that the twin had died...............were you aware of this?

Hi Jacqueline

my fathers birth certificate says

thirtieth August 1897 11.0pm 13 Chew's row UD
Father John Booth Joiner (Journeyman)
mother Annie Elizabeth Formerly Mellon
X The mark of Ann Hulbert present at the birth 10 Crooke Street Newton
Registrar J Reynolds.

I don't know his wife's name. I only know my father worked in Wythenshaw Manchester. I was only 6 years old when my mother and father died.

Kind regards

Christina

The 1891 census shows John Booth's occupation to be Joiner

annie mellon's birth

Annie Elizabeth Mellon
England Births and Christenings
Name: Annie Elizabeth Mellon
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Jun 1862
Christening Place: SAINT PETER,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1862
Father's Name: John Marquis Mellon
Mother's Name: Mary Ann

Hi Jacqueline

It looks like you were right, thank you. It looks like there son Albert born 1888 died age 2 and then they move and had my father who they call Albert.

I didn't know Annie had died.

Thank you so much for your help

Kind regards

Christina

Hi Yvonne

Thank you for your info. I can now add this to my tree

Kind regards

Christina

Albert William Booth
England Births and Christenings
Name: Albert William Booth
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Sep 1884
Christening Place: St. Timothy's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1883
Father's Name: John Booth
Mother's Name: Annie

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11, Pickston Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Booth Head (Son) Single Male 18 1883 Greyman In Bleach Works Liverpool, Lancashire, England Transcription
Albert W Booth Brother Single Male 17 1884 Black Dyer Assist Liverpool, Lancashire, England Transcription

Sister's marriage?

Mabel Ruth Booth
Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 22
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1912
Parish: Harpurhey, St Stephen
Parish as it Appears: Harpurhey, St Stephen
Father's name: John Booth, Joiner, deceased
Spouse's Name: Alfred Ernest Mason
Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Muson
Reference Number: GB127.M416/1/2/3

Brother John's marriage?

John Booth
Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 25
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1908
Parish: Collyhurst, Albert Memorial Church
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father's name: John Booth, Joiner, deceased
Spouse's Name: Alice Collinge
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Collinge
Reference Number: M140/1/28/6
Item Number: 4
Archive Roll: 515

Hi Rootgather

Thank you so much. These are my fathers sibling

Kind regards

Christina

Hi Christina

I see the address on your father Albert's birth cert is........13 Chew's Row

This is Albert and Annie's baptism records.......(Albert has been transcribed as Alfred!)


Alfred Booth in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name: Alfred Booth
Abode: 13 Chews Row, Hendham Vale
Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1897
Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey
Father's name: John Booth (Joiner)
Mother's name: Annie Booth

On the same page.......

Annie Booth in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name: Annie Booth
Abode: 13 Chews Row, Hendham Vale
Baptism Date:31 Aug 1897
Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey
Father's name: John Booth (Joiner)
Mother's name: Annie Booth


Prickles.x

John Booth and his wife Alice on the 1911 census.......

John Booth in the 1911 England Census
Name:John Booth
Age in 1911:28
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1883
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:North Manchester
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Street address:20 Alderside St Harpurhey Manchester
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Foreman Greyman (Bleachers)
Registration district:Prestwich
Registration District Number:467
Sub-registration district:Blackley

Household Members:

John Booth 28
Alice Booth 25 Lancs Manchester
Arthur Booth 1/12 Lancs Manchester

(Married 3 yrs......1 child born and living)


Arthur Booth in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name:Arthur Booth
Abode: 20 Alderside St
Baptism Date:9 Mar 1911
Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey
Father's name:John Booth (Foreman Greyman)
Mother's name:Alice Booth


Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Booth Arthur Prestwich 8d 327

Dear Prickly

I have learnt so much about my fathers family in the last couple of days. It's amazing how everyone who has helped me has been able to find this information

Thank you

Kind regards

Christina

I am not seeing Agnes after the 1891 census.

This might be her birth and baptism.......(No image showing on the baptism record)

Agnes Eleanor Booth in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Agnes Eleanor Booth
Registration Year:1887
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:West Derby
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8b
Page:559


Agnes Eleanor Booth in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Agnes Eleanor Booth
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:25 Apr 1887
Baptism Place:St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father:John Booth
Mother:Annie

Further details of Annie Elizabeth Mellon's baptism.....

Annie Elizabeth Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name:Annie Elizabeth Mellon
Abode: Everton
Birth Date:25 Jul 1862
Baptism Date:15 Jun 1862
Parish:Liverpool, St Peter
Father's name:John Margaret Mellon (Ship Steward)
(Middle name Marquis on the image)
Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon

A Brother.......

(Father John has been transcribed as "Marcus"........


John Marcus Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name:John Marcus Mellon
Abode: 20 Upper Beau Street
Birth Date:9 Feb 1867
Baptism Date:11 Jul 1867
Parish:Liverpool, All Saints
Father's name:Marcus Mellon (Ship Steward)
Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon

John Marcus Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:John Marcus Mellon
Registration Year:1867
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:West Derby
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8b
Page:391

Sadly he died in 1870...

John Marcus Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:John Marcus Mellon
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868
Registration Year:1870
Registration Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death:2
Registration district:West Derby
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8b
Page:342



Parents marriage........

(If John's middle name was originally Marquis.......it seems to have changed to Marcus)

John Marcus Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Name:John Marcus Mellon (Mariner) Bachelor......13 McKenzie Street
Age:Full Age
Marriage Date:24 Oct 1860
Parish:Everton, St George
Spouse's Name:Mary Ann Lupton (Spinster) 8 Upper Beau Street <<<<<<<<<<<
Father's name:Marcus Sullius Cicero Mellon (Cabinet Maker) ""Suillius looks like Tullius on the image""
Spouse Father's Name:Benjamin Lupton (Cattle Dealer)
Witnesses:John Eyett and Elizabeth Farrell


Possibly Mother Mary Ann's death....

Mary Ann Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:Mary Ann Mellon
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837
Registration Year:1880
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death:43
Registration district:Liverpool
Inferred County:Lancashire
Volume:8b
Page:6

It seems that is the correct death for Mary Ann Mellon as John remarried in 1886...

John Marcus Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
Name:John Marcus Mellon (Widower) Mariner
Age:Full Age
Marriage Date:23 Feb 1886
Parish:Everton, St George
Spouse's Name:Amelia Rouse (Widow)
Father's name:Marcus Mellon (Cabinet Maker)
Spouse Father's Name:William Jones (Accountant)
Witnesses: John Denver Jones and Amelia Chadwick


Possibly John and Amelia in 1901........

John Mellon in the 1901 England Census
Name:John Mellon
Age:59
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1842
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Spouse:Amelia Mellon
Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish:St Luke
County/Island:Lancashire
Country: England

Condition as to marriage:
Registration district:Salford
Sub-registration district:Pendleton


Household Members:

John Mellon 59 (Labourer in Engine Shop)
Amelia Mellon 58 Liverpool Lancashire



Deaths Dec 1901 (>99%)
Mellon Amelia [56]8 Salford 8d 47