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Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Christina	Report	23 Jun 2015 15:39
Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Dear rootgatherer Unfortunately I have no idea. But thank you any way. Kind regards Christina
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	23 Jun 2015 14:42
	Without any idea of even a first name for his first wife it would be almost impossible as there are so many Albert Booth marriages. Do you have any idea of even an approximate year for his first marriage?
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Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Christina	Report	23 Jun 2015 13:34
Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	My Father was married before he met my mother, can anyone help me to find this marriage. I have tried but as I am a novice I don't know where to look. I would also like to find if he had children from this marriage. Can any one please tell me where I can search. Kind regards Christina
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	21 Jun 2015 16:24
	My pleasure. Prickles. x
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Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Christina	Report	21 Jun 2015 15:59
Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	PricklyHolly Thank you for your help. I have put all your info on my tree. Kind regards Chistina
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	21 Jun 2015 13:41
	Mary Ann Mellon in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name:Mary Ann Mellon Birth Date:31 Mar 1897 Age:0 Baptism Date:21 Apr 1897 Parish:Collyhurst, St James Parish as it Appears:Collyhurst, St James Father's name:Benjamin Mellon Mother's name:Ruth Mellon Benjamin Mellon in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name:Benjamin Mellon Baptism Date:30 May 1900 Parish:Harpurhey, Christ Church Parish as it Appears:Harpurhey Father's name:Benjamin Mellon Mother's name:Ruth Mellon There does not appear to be baptism's for Mary Alice, Harold and Alfred.
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	21 Jun 2015 11:44
	Agnes is a widow in 1911....... Agnes Smith in the 1911 England Census Name:Agnes Smith Age in 1911:45 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Female Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Middleton County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:85 Boarshaw Rd Middleton Lancashire Marital Status:Widowed Registration district:Oldham Household Members Agnes Smith Head 1866 45 Female Widowed Liverpool, Lancashire, England Harry Smith Son 1889 22 Male Single Mechanic Manchester, Lancashire, England Alfred Smith Son 1890 21 Male Single Manchester, Lancashire, England Ralph Smith Son 1892 19 Male Single Cotton Factory Manchester, Lancashire, England Agnes Smith Daughter 1894 17 Female Single Manchester, Lancashire, England William Smith Son 1896 15 Male Single Engine Head Tenter Manchester, Lancashire Annie Smith Daughter 1898 13 Female Cloth Stretcher Manchester, Lancashire, England John Smith Son 1900 11 Male Half Tearer School Manchester, Lancashire, England Mary Smith Daughter 1902 9 Female School Manchester, Lancashire, England Ethel Smith Daughter 1906 5 Female School Manchester, Lancashire, England Arthur Smith Son 1910 1 Male Middleton, Lancashire, England (10 children born and living)
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	21 Jun 2015 11:23
	Ah ha!! Another transcription error. Benjamin is with his married sister Agnes in 1891....... Benjamin Mellone in the 1891 England Census Name:Benjamin Mellone Age:17 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1874 Relation:Brother-in-law (Brother) Gender:Male Where born:Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Manchester Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch County/Island:Lancashire Registration district:Manchester Sub registration district:St George Country:England Household Members John W Smith Head Male 27 1864 Aldershot (Blacksmith) Agnes Smith Wife Female 25 1866 Liverpool Lancashire Harry Smith Son Male 2 1889 Manchester Lancashire Alfred Smith Son Male 1 1890 Manchester Lancashire Benjamin Mellone Brother-in-law Male 17 1874 Liverpool Lancashire (General Labourer) Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%) Mellon Agnes Bury 8c 598 Smith John William Bury 8c 598
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	21 Jun 2015 10:40
	Ruth went on to marry Thomas Cartwright in 1908...... Ruth Mellon in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name:Ruth Mellon (Widow) 34 Moss Strreet Birth Year:abt 1872 Age:36 Marriage Date:3 Apr 1908 Parish:Denton, Christ Church Parish as it Appears:Denton, Christ Church Father's name:James Dodd Spouse's Name:Thomas Cartwright (Bachelor) Moulder...18 Moss Street Spouse's Father's Name:Thomas Cartwright The children are down as "Mellor" on the 1911...... Ruth Cartwright in the 1911 England Census Name:Ruth Cartwright Age in 1911:38 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1873 Relation to Head:Wife Gender:Female Birth Place:Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Denton County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:3 John Street Denton Manchester Marital Status:Married Occupation:Cotton Weaver Registration district:Ashton under Lyne Sub-registration district:Denton Household Memebers Thomas Cartwright Head 1873 38 Male Married Iron Moulder Boston Masceutes Ruth Cartwright Wife 1873 38 Female Married Cotton Weaver Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Manchester Ethel Cartwright Daughter 1910 4/12 Female Denton, Lancashire, England Mary Alice Mellor Stepdaughter 1894 17 Female Single Cotton Ring Spinner Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Manchester Mary Ann Mellor Stepdaughter 1897 14 Female Single Cotton Ring Spinner Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Manchester Benjamin Mellor Stepson 1901 10 Male Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Harold Mellor Stepson 1903 8 Male Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Alfred Mellor Stepson 1905 6 Male Harpurhey, Lancashire, England
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	21 Jun 2015 10:28
	This is interesting. I am not seeing a baptism......but it seems John Marcus Mellon also had a son Benjamin. Benjamin Mellon in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name:Benjamin Mellon (Bachelor) Dyer....21 Thornton Street Birth Year:abt 1872 Age:20 Marriage Date:1 May 1892 Parish:Collyhurst, St James Parish as it Appears:Collyhurst, St James Father's name:John Mellon (Ships Steward) Spouse's Name:Ruth Dodd (Spinster) Weaver....21 Thornton Street Spouse's Father's Name:James Dodd (Brick Setters Labourer) Witnesses: George Thomas Widow and Elizabeth Hall Benjamin Patrick Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Benjamin Patrick Mellon Registration Year:1871 Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district:Liverpool Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8b Page:74 Boarding with his Father in 1881? Benjamin Mellon in the 1881 England Census Name:Benjamin Mellon Age:9 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872 Relationship to Head:Boarder Gender:Male Where born:Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Kirkdale County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:26 Dryburgh St Occupation:Scholar Registration district:West Derby Sub registration district:Kirkdale Household Members: Elizabeth Thistlethwaite 40 Henry Thistlethwaite 17 Alfred Thistlethwaite 14 Fanny F. Thistlethwaite 10 Bermell W. Thistlethwaite 8 Mary Thistlethwaite 6 John Mellon 44 Widower........Labourer Benjamin Mellon 9 William Parry 67 Benjamin P Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name:Benjamin P Mellon Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872 Registration Year:1905 Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death:33 Registration district:Prestwich Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8d Page:262 Benjamin P Mellon in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current Name:Benjamin P Mellon Death Date:Oct 1905 Cemetery:Manchester General Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Manchester, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-... " Millon" on the 1901 census..... Benjamin Millon in the 1901 England Census Name:Benjamin Millon Age:29 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Spouse:Ruth Millon Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Manchester Ecclesiastical parish:Harpurhey and Moston Christchurch County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Registration district:Manchester Sub-registration district:St George Household Members: Benjamin Millon 29 Bleachers labourer Ruth Millon 29 Mary A Millon 7 Mary Ann Millon 4 Benjamin Millon 11/12 Benjamin and Ruth also had a son......John Marcus Mellon John Marcus Mellon in the Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name:John Marcus Mellon Abode: 4 Mou?? Place Birth Date:23 Mar 1892 Age:0 Baptism Date:18 May 1892 Parish:Collyhurst, St James Parish as it Appears:Collyhurst, St James Father's name:Benjamin Mellon (Dyer) Mother's name:Ruth Mellon Sadly..... John Marcus Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name:John Marcus Mellon Estimated Birth Year:abt 1892 Registration Year:1892 Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death:0 Registration district:Manchester Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8d Page:240
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Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	21 Jun 2015 09:10
	Ann Hulbert's occupation in 1901 is washerwoman.
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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	20 Jun 2015 22:30
	i think that a x is the mark of someone who cannot write their name
Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Christina	Report	20 Jun 2015 22:25
Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Hi Rootgatherer I think this lady was the local midwife because on the birth certificate it say X the mark of Ann Hulbert present at the birth Kind regards Christina
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 13,478 Send Message	rootgatherer	Report	20 Jun 2015 19:21
	"albert's" baptism hasn't been mistranscibed. On the baptism entry it is clearly Alfred. That would make more sense as John and Annie already had a son called Albert William b. 1884. He is with his brother John on the 1901 census. This is the Lady that registered the birth. I wonder if she made a mistake and Albert was really meant to be registered as Alfred. 1901 Ann Hulbert Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Harpurhey, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Harpurhey and Moston Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3756 Folio: 138 Page Number: 17 Household schedule number: 118 Household Members: Name Age Ann Hulbert 42 Arthur Hulbert 17 Dora Hulbert 14 John Hulbert 10 James Hulbert Not sure if she was related to the Booths or a family friend.
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	20 Jun 2015 16:25
	I am not seeing a baptism for John Marcus senior....A Sister ?........ (A different mother though.......perhaps a second wife for Marcus?) Hannah Mellon in the Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 Name:Hannah Mellon Abode: London Road Baptism Date:8 Feb 1833 Parish:Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England Father:Marcus Mellon (Joiner) Mother:Martha Mellon Register Type:Bishop's Transcripts
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Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Christina	Report	20 Jun 2015 16:21
Member Since: June 2015 Posts: 15 Send Message	Hi Prickly Wow this is amazing thank you for your time Kind regards Christina
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	20 Jun 2015 15:34
	Another Brother for Annie Elizabeth...... Alfred Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name:Alfred Mellon Abode: Everton Birth Date:12 Oct 1859 >>>>>>> 1869 on the image Baptism Date:25 Jul 1870 Parish:Liverpool, St Peter Father's name:John Marcus Mellon (Ship Steward) Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon Births Dec 1869 (>99%) Mellon Alfred W. Derby 8b 387 And a Sister... Agnes Ann Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name:Agnes Ann Mellon Abode: Everton Birth Date:25 Jan 1865 Baptism Date:30 Nov 1865 Parish:Liverpool, St Peter Father's name:John Marcus Mellon (Ship Steward) Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon Births Sep 1865 (>99%) Mellon Agnes Ann W. Derby 8b 365 I can't seem to find Annie, Alfred, Agnes and the parents on any census records......apart from the 1901 census I posted for John and Amelia. :-S
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	20 Jun 2015 14:34
	It seems that is the correct death for Mary Ann Mellon as John remarried in 1886... John Marcus Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 Name:John Marcus Mellon (Widower) Mariner Age:Full Age Marriage Date:23 Feb 1886 Parish:Everton, St George Spouse's Name:Amelia Rouse (Widow) Father's name:Marcus Mellon (Cabinet Maker) Spouse Father's Name:William Jones (Accountant) Witnesses: John Denver Jones and Amelia Chadwick Possibly John and Amelia in 1901........ John Mellon in the 1901 England Census Name:John Mellon Age:59 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1842 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Spouse:Amelia Mellon Birth Place:Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish:Pendleton Ecclesiastical parish:St Luke County/Island:Lancashire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Registration district:Salford Sub-registration district:Pendleton Household Members: John Mellon 59 (Labourer in Engine Shop) Amelia Mellon 58 Liverpool Lancashire Deaths Dec 1901 (>99%) Mellon Amelia [56]8 Salford 8d 47
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	20 Jun 2015 14:20
	Further details of Annie Elizabeth Mellon's baptism..... Annie Elizabeth Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name:Annie Elizabeth Mellon Abode: Everton Birth Date:25 Jul 1862 Baptism Date:15 Jun 1862 Parish:Liverpool, St Peter Father's name:John Margaret Mellon (Ship Steward) (Middle name Marquis on the image) Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon A Brother....... (Father John has been transcribed as "Marcus"........ John Marcus Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name:John Marcus Mellon Abode: 20 Upper Beau Street Birth Date:9 Feb 1867 Baptism Date:11 Jul 1867 Parish:Liverpool, All Saints Father's name:Marcus Mellon (Ship Steward) Mother's name:Mary Ann Mellon John Marcus Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:John Marcus Mellon Registration Year:1867 Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun Registration district:West Derby Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8b Page:391 Sadly he died in 1870... John Marcus Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name:John Marcus Mellon Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868 Registration Year:1870 Registration Quarter:Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death:2 Registration district:West Derby Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8b Page:342 Parents marriage........ (If John's middle name was originally Marquis.......it seems to have changed to Marcus) John Marcus Mellon in the Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 Name:John Marcus Mellon (Mariner) Bachelor......13 McKenzie Street Age:Full Age Marriage Date:24 Oct 1860 Parish:Everton, St George Spouse's Name:Mary Ann Lupton (Spinster) 8 Upper Beau Street <<<<<<<<<<< Father's name:Marcus Sullius Cicero Mellon (Cabinet Maker) ""Suillius looks like Tullius on the image"" Spouse Father's Name:Benjamin Lupton (Cattle Dealer) Witnesses:John Eyett and Elizabeth Farrell Possibly Mother Mary Ann's death.... Mary Ann Mellon in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name:Mary Ann Mellon Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837 Registration Year:1880 Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death:43 Registration district:Liverpool Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8b Page:6
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	20 Jun 2015 11:48
	I am not seeing Agnes after the 1891 census. This might be her birth and baptism.......(No image showing on the baptism record) Agnes Eleanor Booth in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Agnes Eleanor Booth Registration Year:1887 Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun Registration district:West Derby Inferred County:Lancashire Volume:8b Page:559 Agnes Eleanor Booth in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name:Agnes Eleanor Booth Gender:Female Baptism Date:25 Apr 1887 Baptism Place:St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father:John Booth Mother:Annie
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