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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 17:10

William Henry Pearce and Beatrice Sanders / Saunders seem only to have had 3 children, Bertha Jane, William Henry and Eva.

juanita

juanita Report 16 Jun 2015 17:26

William Henry pearce seems a very popular name in Cornwall as there was one born 2/7/1858 which may be my great grandfather, he is said to have married ann even den and moved to New Zealand in 1933?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 19:16

This is your Great Grandfather in 1911

William Henry Pearce
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dutson, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Lawhitton Urban St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: 2 Tower Street Launceston
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Waggoner For Grocer
Registration district: Launceston
Registration District Number: 290
Sub-registration district: Launceston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 13568

He gives his birth year as 1881. Do you mean his father was born in 1858 please?

juanita

juanita Report 16 Jun 2015 19:23

I do yes

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 19:24

I think this is the same man in 1891.

His marriage certificate will confirm his father's name and occupation.

William H Pearce
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Henry Pearce
Mother's name: Mary Pearce
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary Church, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Church
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Church
Town: St Mary Church
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1706
Folio: 21
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Pearce 37 Stone Quarryman
Mary Pearce 40
William H Pearce 10
George Pearce 8
Mary E Pearce 8
William J Pearce 6
Thomas Pearce 4
Samuel Pearce 1

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 19:28

Looks like he was in the Navy in 1901

William H Pearce
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: All Ships Company Of Hus "salamander"
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Mary Church, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Dockyard Creek Malta
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad
Sub-registration district: RN Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Salamander
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5333
Folio: 25
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 19:33

Here's William Henry's parents in 1911

Henry Pearce
Age in 1911: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Mary church, Devon
Civil Parish: St Mary Church
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 6 West Hill Court, Barewell Rd, St Mary Church, Torquay
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Quarryman Delver stone
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Registration District Number: 272
Sub-registration district: Torquay
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 12784
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Pearce 57
Mary Pearce 60
Tomas Pearce 24

Married 33 years, 9 children born, 5 living and 4 had died

juanita

juanita Report 16 Jun 2015 19:57

That's amazing thank you. Where I am now I think john pearce could remain a mystery

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 20:49

1881

Henry Pearce
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Pearce
Gender: Male
Where born: S Mary Ch, Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Church
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: West Hill
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub registration district: Torquay
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2170
Folio: 21
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Pearce 27
Mary Pearce 30
William Pearce 3 months




I for what it's worth, I think that it is more likely that Patrick's father surname is maybe Gordon.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 16 Jun 2015 20:53

Henry Pearce
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 187

Records on Page:
Name
Isabel Brodrick
Arthur Mackay Ellis
Henry Pearce <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary Ann C Shinner
Mary Ann C Skinner <<<<<<<<<<<

Or this one?

Henry Pearce
Registration Year: 1877
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 223

Records on Page:
Name
Mary Bowden
Henry Pearce
Louisa Simon
James Henry Sprott

juanita

juanita Report 16 Jun 2015 21:41

I think you may well be right, and worth exploring

juanita

juanita Report 16 Jun 2015 23:35

I have also found what I believe is the brother of charles napton, Richard napton born 1910, their May be further descendants on that branch of the family

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jun 2015 10:30

Can't see the Naptons in 1911 at all.

juanita

juanita Report 17 Jun 2015 11:03

That is very strange, they were in plymouth, charles was born in 1901 he was in the navy during to 1920's leaving in 1937

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jun 2015 12:43


Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919 Transcription

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First name(s) Charles
Last name Napton
Service number K57071
Birth year 1901
Birth date 02 May 1901
Birth place Plymouth
Birth county Devon
Birth country England
Archive reference ADM 188/975/57071
Record set Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919


He was a cabman previously, date of birth 2nd May 1901. This has been amended to 2nd May 1903 so looks like he was not too truthful about his age.
His date and period of engagement was 28 May 1919- 12 years.


Matches with this birth.

First name(s) CHARLIE
Last name NAPTON
Birth year 1903
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District EAST STONEHOUSE
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 262


You have the marriage certificate for Charles. What was his father's name and occupation?

alviegal

alviegal Report 17 Jun 2015 12:57

Potential siblings going by area.

Name: Ernest Napton
Birth: Jan 1905 - East Stonehouse, Devon




Name: Frederick Napton
Birth: Jul 1900 - East Stonehouse, Devon


Name: Frederick Napton
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: East Stonehouse

juanita

juanita Report 17 Jun 2015 14:32

Charles father was Richard napton, skilled labourer in the dockyard plymouth. On the marriage certificate it states bit has 1901 and he married 3/6/1949 at 48 years, though prior to that he was with ivy may Pencavel, who he married in 1925, I think she died in 1930

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Jun 2015 16:31

1911

Fredrick Napton
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Devonport, Devon
Civil Parish: Devonport
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 15 Fort Street, Devonport
Registration district: Devonport
Registration District Number: 278
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 255
Piece: 13024
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Napton 39, Waterman
Christina Napton 39
Fredrick Napton 8
Alford Napton 4

Married 13 years, 7 children born, 2 living and 5 had died

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 17 Jun 2015 16:40

Same family in 1901

Richard Nanton
Age: 92
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
[1872]
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Christina Nanton
Birth Place: Devonport, Devon, England
Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: East Stonehouse
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: East Stonehouse
Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2104
Folio: 140
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Nanton 92 , A. B. Naval Ord. Vessel
Christina Nanton 28
Richard Nanton 1
Frederick Nanton, 3 months

Surname is Napton on image. Richard is 29 on image.

juanita

juanita Report 17 Jun 2015 17:07

Still no charles, his death cert states death on 25/11/1967 aged 64 years