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16 Jun 2015 17:10 |
William Henry Pearce and Beatrice Sanders / Saunders seem only to have had 3 children, Bertha Jane, William Henry and Eva.
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juanita
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16 Jun 2015 17:26 |
William Henry pearce seems a very popular name in Cornwall as there was one born 2/7/1858 which may be my great grandfather, he is said to have married ann even den and moved to New Zealand in 1933?
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16 Jun 2015 19:16 |
This is your Great Grandfather in 1911
William Henry Pearce Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Dutson, Devon, England Civil Parish: Lawhitton Urban St Mary Magdalene County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: 2 Tower Street Launceston Marital Status: Married Occupation: Waggoner For Grocer Registration district: Launceston Registration District Number: 290 Sub-registration district: Launceston ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 13568
He gives his birth year as 1881. Do you mean his father was born in 1858 please?
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juanita
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16 Jun 2015 19:23 |
I do yes
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16 Jun 2015 19:24 |
I think this is the same man in 1891.
His marriage certificate will confirm his father's name and occupation.
William H Pearce Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son (Child) Father's name: Henry Pearce Mother's name: Mary Pearce Gender: Male Where born: St Mary Church, Devon, England Civil Parish: St Mary Church Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Church Town: St Mary Church County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Newton Abbot ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1706 Folio: 21 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Henry Pearce 37 Stone Quarryman Mary Pearce 40 William H Pearce 10 George Pearce 8 Mary E Pearce 8 William J Pearce 6 Thomas Pearce 4 Samuel Pearce 1
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16 Jun 2015 19:28 |
Looks like he was in the Navy in 1901
William H Pearce Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation to Head: All Ships Company Of Hus "salamander" Gender: Male Birth Place: St Mary Church, Devon, England Civil Parish: Vessels Town: Dockyard Creek Malta County/Island: Royal Navy Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad Sub-registration district: RN Ships ED, institution, or vessel: Salamander Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5333 Folio: 25 Page Number: 3 Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name
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16 Jun 2015 19:33 |
Here's William Henry's parents in 1911
Henry Pearce Age in 1911: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: St Mary church, Devon Civil Parish: St Mary Church County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 6 West Hill Court, Barewell Rd, St Mary Church, Torquay Marital Status: Married Occupation: Quarryman Delver stone Registration district: Newton Abbot Registration District Number: 272 Sub-registration district: Torquay ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 128 Piece: 12784 Household Members: Name Age Henry Pearce 57 Mary Pearce 60 Tomas Pearce 24
Married 33 years, 9 children born, 5 living and 4 had died
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juanita
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16 Jun 2015 19:57 |
That's amazing thank you. Where I am now I think john pearce could remain a mystery
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16 Jun 2015 20:49 |
1881
Henry Pearce Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Pearce Gender: Male Where born: S Mary Ch, Devon, England Civil Parish: St Mary Church County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: West Hill Marital Status: Married Education:
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View image Registration district: Newton Abbot Sub registration district: Torquay ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2170 Folio: 21 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Henry Pearce 27 Mary Pearce 30 William Pearce 3 months
I for what it's worth, I think that it is more likely that Patrick's father surname is maybe Gordon.
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16 Jun 2015 20:53 |
Henry Pearce Registration Year: 1880 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Newton Abbot Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 187
Records on Page: Name Isabel Brodrick Arthur Mackay Ellis Henry Pearce <<<<<<<<<<<<< Mary Ann C Shinner Mary Ann C Skinner <<<<<<<<<<<
Or this one?
Henry Pearce Registration Year: 1877 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Newton Abbot Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Devon Volume: 5b Page: 223
Records on Page: Name Mary Bowden Henry Pearce Louisa Simon James Henry Sprott
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juanita
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16 Jun 2015 21:41 |
I think you may well be right, and worth exploring
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16 Jun 2015 23:35 |
I have also found what I believe is the brother of charles napton, Richard napton born 1910, their May be further descendants on that branch of the family
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17 Jun 2015 10:30 |
Can't see the Naptons in 1911 at all.
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juanita
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17 Jun 2015 11:03 |
That is very strange, they were in plymouth, charles was born in 1901 he was in the navy during to 1920's leaving in 1937
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17 Jun 2015 12:43 |
Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Charles Last name Napton Service number K57071 Birth year 1901 Birth date 02 May 1901 Birth place Plymouth Birth county Devon Birth country England Archive reference ADM 188/975/57071 Record set Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1919
He was a cabman previously, date of birth 2nd May 1901. This has been amended to 2nd May 1903 so looks like he was not too truthful about his age. His date and period of engagement was 28 May 1919- 12 years.
Matches with this birth.
First name(s) CHARLIE Last name NAPTON Birth year 1903 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District EAST STONEHOUSE County Devon Country England Volume 5B Page 262
You have the marriage certificate for Charles. What was his father's name and occupation?
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17 Jun 2015 12:57 |
Potential siblings going by area.
Name: Ernest Napton Birth: Jan 1905 - East Stonehouse, Devon
Name: Frederick Napton Birth: Jul 1900 - East Stonehouse, Devon
Name: Frederick Napton Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Registration Year: 1902 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 1 Registration district: East Stonehouse
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juanita
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17 Jun 2015 14:32 |
Charles father was Richard napton, skilled labourer in the dockyard plymouth. On the marriage certificate it states bit has 1901 and he married 3/6/1949 at 48 years, though prior to that he was with ivy may Pencavel, who he married in 1925, I think she died in 1930
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17 Jun 2015 16:31 |
1911
Fredrick Napton Age in 1911: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903 Relation to Head: Son (Child) Gender: Male Birth Place: Devonport, Devon Civil Parish: Devonport County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 15 Fort Street, Devonport Registration district: Devonport Registration District Number: 278 Sub-registration district: St Aubyn ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 255 Piece: 13024 Household Members: Name Age Richard Napton 39, Waterman Christina Napton 39 Fredrick Napton 8 Alford Napton 4
Married 13 years, 7 children born, 2 living and 5 had died
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17 Jun 2015 16:40 |
Same family in 1901
Richard Nanton Age: 92 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 [1872] Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Christina Nanton Birth Place: Devonport, Devon, England Civil Parish: East Stonehouse Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: East Stonehouse County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: East Stonehouse Sub-registration district: East Stonehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2104 Folio: 140 Page Number: 2 Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Richard Nanton 92 , A. B. Naval Ord. Vessel Christina Nanton 28 Richard Nanton 1 Frederick Nanton, 3 months
Surname is Napton on image. Richard is 29 on image.
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juanita
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17 Jun 2015 17:07 |
Still no charles, his death cert states death on 25/11/1967 aged 64 years
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