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Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 21 Mar 2015 12:11

Hi
Iam trying to trace the the Mother and father of the following couple
Please

Mark Jones married Hilda Rawson @ Nottingham 1917

They had 2 children Willaim Jones born 1919 mothers name Rawson

Margaret Jones born 1925 mothers name Rawson

Thankyou

Olive Jean










brummiejan

brummiejan Report 21 Mar 2015 12:25

Hi Olive.
Having checked 1911 census there are 2 Hilda Rawsons who might match. And she or Mark might have been born elsewhere.
Unless you know a bit more, you might need to get the marriage cert.
Try looking for them in other members' trees first, you never know.
Use search box above to do this.
Jan

Dea

Dea Report 21 Mar 2015 13:08

Did Hilda die in 1925 around the time of her daughter Margaret's birth?

Deaths Mar 1925 (>99%)
Jones Hilda 28 Nottingham 7b 542

If this is her death then this is very likely to be her with her family in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
35 Newmarket Road Bulwell, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Rawson Head Married Male 35 1876 Bulwell Nottingham Blast Furnaceman
Harriett Ann Rawson Wife Married Female 33 1878 Bulwell Nottingham -
Hilda Rawson Daughter Single Female 14 1897 Bulwell Nottingham Hoisery Worker
Harold Rawson Son - Male 9 1902 Bulwell Nottingham -
Dorothy Rawson Daughter - Female 9 1902 Bulwell Nottingham -
Minnie Rawson Daughter - Female 7 1904 Bulwell Nottingham -
Florrie Rawson Daughter - Female 6 1905 Bulwell Nottingham -
Herbert Rawson Son - Male 4 1907 Bulwell Nottingham


We really do need some more info from you to be sure of anything though!

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Mar 2015 13:52

(if Hilda above, then below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Bulwell
Church St Mary
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 31 Mar 1897
Forename Hilda
FatherForename William
MotherForename Harriet Anne
FatherSurname RAWSON
MotherSurname
Abode Milton St
FatherOccupation Potmaker

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 21 Mar 2015 18:24

Hi
Thankyou so much for your information

Like you say I really need to send for the Marriage Certificate
I have look on other Members Family Trees but I havnt found any thing

But the Census looks good ?Yes Hilda Jones (Rawson)did die about 1925 aged 28

Thankyou

Olive Jean

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 21 Mar 2015 19:56

Hi
Next piece of my jig saw !!

Mark and Hilda Jones daughter Margaret Jones born 1925 married Donald Farnham born 1922 Nottingham( mother Bramley) Marriage 1947 Nottingham

Donald Farnham Father Walter Farnhan born About 1899 Nottingham

Walter Farnham married Polly Bramliy born ?marriage 1922 Nottingham

I can find Walter Farnham on the 1911 Census but not Polly Bramley

Thankyou
Olive Jean

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Mar 2015 20:26

??? Mary married 19 years and with 5 children. Husband is 'entered in constabulary schedule.' This has then been scored through.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
26 North Street Langley Mill Nottinghamshire, Heanor, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Mary Bramley Wife In Charge Married Female 39 1872 Derbyshire Darley -
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Henry Bramley Son - Male 10 1901 Derbyshire Heanor School
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Pollyy Bramley Daughter - Female 8 1903 Derbyshire Heanor School
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George Bramley Son - Male 6 1905 Derbyshire Heanor School
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Mabel Bramley Daughter - Female 3 1908 Derbyshire Heanor


Possible 1901



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
18, Nook End, Heanor (Derby), Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bramley Head Married Male 33 1868 Coal Miner "above" Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England
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Mary Bramley Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England
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Eliza Bramley Daughter Single Female 8 1893 - Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
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John Bramley Son Single Male 2 1899 - Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
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Henry Bramley Son Single Male 0 1901 - Heanor, Derbyshire, England





There is also this birth.



England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

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First name(s) POLLY
Last name BRAMLEY
Birth year 1902
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 235

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 21 Mar 2015 20:46

Hi
Thankyou for looking for me

I will have to get copies of the marriages to find the fathers name As I wonder who Polly Bramleys Father was

Bye and Thankyou

Olive Jean







:-)

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Mar 2015 20:46

Marriage for the parents. There are a few trees on ancestry with this family.

Name: William Bramley
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Basford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 307
Records on Page:
Name
>>William Bramley
>>Polly Crooks
Martha Hopkinson
Isaac Walker


and William in 1911.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25 Station Road Langley Mill Nottinghamshire, Heanor, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Charles Alonzo Stone Head Married Male 37 1874 Derbyshire Derby Inspector Of Police
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Florence Stone Wife Married Female 38 1873 Derbyshire Derby -
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John Alfred Stone Son - Male 13 1898 Derbyshire Beighton -
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Herbert Stone Son - Male 6 1905 Derbyshire Langley Mill -
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Winifred Mary Stone Daughter - Female 5 1906 Derbyshire Langley Mill -
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William Bramley Prisoner Married Male 42 1869 Nottinghamshire Hucknall Soutars Colliery Labourer Above Ground

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 21 Mar 2015 20:48

Hi
It's a shame it doesn't state the mothers name on the birth transcript
From
Olive Jean

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Mar 2015 21:07

This is the marriage for Walter and Polly?

Name: Walter Farnath
Spouse Surname: Bramley
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922
Registration district: Basford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 467
Polly Bramley



England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) WALTER
Last name FARNATH
Gender Male
Birth day 2
Birth month 9
Birth year 1899
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1976
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 0150


????



England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) MARY
Last name FARNATH
Gender Female
Birth day 23
Birth month 11
Birth year 1901
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1978
District NOTTINGHAM
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 0948

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Mar 2015 21:14

So the name is FARNATH not Farnham.


England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) DONALD
Last name FARNATH
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1923
Age 43
Death quarter 1
Death year 1966
District NOTTINGHAM
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 3C
Page 627

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Mar 2015 21:17

So this is Walter with his family.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Cavendish St Butler's Hill Hucknall, Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Albert Farnath Head Married Male 45 1866 Warick Tamworth Coal Miner Hewer
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Mary Elizabeth Farnath Wife Married Female 38 1873 Notts Hucknall -
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Henry Farnath Skidmore Son - Male 13 1898 Notts Hucknall Working In Flower Wedger Potterier
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Walter Farnath Skidmore Son - Male 11 1900 Notts Hucknall School
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Evelyn Farnath Skidmore Daughter - Female 9 1902 Notts Hucknall -
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Ernest Farnath Son - Male 6 1905 Notts Hucknall -
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Ethel Farnath Daughter - Female 4 1907 Notts Hucknall -
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Ivy May Farnath Daughter - Female 0 1911 Notts Hucknall


and 1901. Jane is obviously James but it does read Jane. States he is married but Mary is single.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Cavendish Street, Hucknall Torkard, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jane Farnath Head Married Male 35 1866 Coal Miner Hewer Warwickshire, England
Transcription
Mary E Skidmore House Keeper Single Female 27 1874 - Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England
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James F Skidmore Son Single Male 10 1891 - Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England
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Harry F Skidmore Son Single Male 3 1898 - Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England
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Walter F Skidmore Son Single Male 1 1900 - Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England
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Kate Pickering Boarder Single Female 20 1881 Lace Maker Leicestershire, England
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Lois Skidmore Boarder Single Female 17 1884 Lace Maker Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire, England


James Albert and Mary Elizabeth Skidmore married in 1903.

alviegal

alviegal Report 21 Mar 2015 21:30

OK so Walter was known by both names.


England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

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First name(s) WALTER FARNSWORTH
Last name SKIDMORE
Birth year 1899
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 220




England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) WALTER FARNSWORTH
Last name SKIDMORE
Gender Male
Birth day 2
Birth month 9
Birth year 1899
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1976
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 0150


Everything is the same as Walter Farnath's death that I posted earlier.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 21 Mar 2015 22:06

Hi
Thankyou so much for all the information sorry i entered the name wrong Yes it is Farnath

It has been interesting reading !
Olive Jean



Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 22 Mar 2015 10:22

Hi
Thankyou all for all the look ups you have done

I just wonder if on 1911 census for the Bramley Family does it state how long Mary Bramley has been married
I could look on BMD Org as I haven't acsses to Ancestry only in the Local Library

Thankyou
Olive Jean

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Mar 2015 18:29

She had been married 19 years which ties in with the marriage I posted. Polly is generally a pet name for Mary. You may be best to buy this certificate to ensure it is the correct couple.


Name: William Bramley
Registration Year: 1891
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Basford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 307
Records on Page:
Name
>>William Bramley
>>Polly Crooks
Martha Hopkinson
Isaac Walker


or here it is with parents' names.



England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Polly
Last name Crooks
Name note -
Age 21
Marriage year 1891
Marriage date 25 Dec 1891
Marriage place Ilkeston, Derby, England
Father's first name(s) Rufus
Father's last name Crooks
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Brambley
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Brambley
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Place Ilkeston
County Derbyshire
Country England

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Mar 2015 18:43


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poplar Row, St Alkmund, Derby, Derbyshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Rufus Crookes Head - Male 35 1836 - Derbyshire, England
Transcription
Eliza Crookes Wife - Female 35 1836 - Derbyshire, England
Transcription
Sarah Crookes Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Derbyshire, England
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Rufus Crookes Son - Male 14 1857 - Derbyshire, England
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Jane Crookes Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Derbyshire, England
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Elizabeth Crookes Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Derbyshire, England
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Ruth Crookes Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Derbyshire, England
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Thurza Crookes Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Derbyshire, England
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>>>Mary Crookes Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Derbyshire, England



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Woodeaves, Tissington, Ashborne, Derbyshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Eliza Crooks Head Married Female 46 1835 - -
Transcription
Rufus Crooks Son Single Male 24 1857 Cotton Mill Yard Shirley, Derbyshire, England
Transcription
Jane Crooks Daughter Single Female 23 1858 Cotton Mill Yard Shirley, Derbyshire, England
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Elizabeth Crooks Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Cotton Mill Hand Shirley, Derbyshire, England
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Ruth Crooks Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Cotton Mill Hand Shirley, Derbyshire, England
Transcription
Theresa Crooks Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Cotton Mill Hand Shirley, Derbyshire, England
Transcription
>>Mary Crooks Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Derbyshire, England
Transcription
Joseph Crooks Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Lancashire, England
Transcription
Harriet Crooks Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Lancashire, England


Rufus in 1881.



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
124, Bolton New Road, Atherton, Leigh, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Hesketh Head Married Male 43 1838 Coal Miner Prescot, Lancashire, England
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Ellen Hesketh Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Wiston, Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth E Hesketh Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Operative In Cotton Factory Atherton, Lancashire, England
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John Wm Hesketh Son Single Male 13 1868 Screwer In Bolt Works Atherton, Lancashire, England
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James Hesketh Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Atherton, Lancashire, England
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Esther Hesketh Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Atherton, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Richard Hesketh Son Single Male 2 1879 - Atherton, Lancashire, England
Transcription
Mary Hesketh Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Atherton, Lancashire, England
Transcription
>>Rufus Crooks Lodger Married Male 46 1835 Working Nail Maker Derbyshire, England



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Ellesmere Street, Farnworth, Bolton, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Rufus Crooks Head Widower Male 54 1837 Nail Maker Smith Woodhouse, Derbyshire, England
Transcription
>>Mary Crooks Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Twist Maker Darley Abbey, Derbyshire, England
Transcription
Harriet Crooks Daughter - Female 16 1875 ? Ap Cotton Walkden, Lancashire, England

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 22 Mar 2015 23:30

Hi
Thankyou for again for the information

I did notice the Marriage for

William Bramley -Polly Crooks 1891

(But didn't know Polly was a pet name for Mary)

Thankyou
Olive Jean




alviegal

alviegal Report 23 Mar 2015 15:31

You're most welcome :-)