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Hi,

I am having some trouble searching for my great great grandmother, Mary Ann Cornish, nee Parminter. According to her death certificate, she was born in 1879. She married William Andrew Cornish in Stoke Dameral, Devonport, in 1898, and died in 1952 in Devonport. Together, they had 10 children, my great grandmother, Evelina was the youngest, born in 1911. My grandmother believes that Mary Ann was born in Devon, around the Newton Abbot area. From her marriage certificate I know her father's name was John Parminter, and the middle name Howard suggests that was potentially her mother's maiden name. I have found a marriage for a John Parminter to an Ann Howard in 1856, in Halstead, Essex, but at 24 years before the birth, either this is the wrong marriage, or Mary Ann lied about her age (William Andrew Cornish was 11 years older by the information I have so far, so this could be possible.). However, I cannot find a birth anywhere. I have considered the possibility that she may have been born abroad, but that doesn't fit with any of the family knowledge I have been able to dig up from my grandparents.

If any of these names, dates etc link in with any of your research, please let me know! I would love to be able to complete this branch of the family for my grandmother.

Lauren

1911 gives her POB as Devonport:


1911 England Census
about Mary Ann Cornish




Name:
Mary Ann Cornish

Age in 1911:
32

Estimated birth year:
abt 1879

Relation to Head:
Wife

Gender:
Female

Birth Place:
Devonport, Devonshire

Civil Parish:
Devonport

County/Island:
Devon

Country:
England

Street address:
25 Monument Street, Devonport, Devonshire

Marital Status:
Married

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Paymeter Mary Ann H Stoke D. 5b 345

Hi,

Yeah that all fits with the family knowledge. However, I can't find a birth in 1979 for Devonport - or anywhere else!

Lauren

Births Mar 1879
Paymeter Mary Ann H - Stoke D. - 5b 345



STOKE DAMEREL
Created : 1.7.1837.
•Abolished : 9.11.1898 (to become part of Devonport registration district

There is this marriage but no bride on freebmd record


Marriages Mar 1859
Parminter John - Barnstaple 5b 781

Also this one although a bit early


Name:
John Thomas Perminter

Marital Status:Married

Marriage Date:25 Dec 1850

Marriage Place:Halstead, Essex, England

Spouse: Mary Ann Newton


Just a possibility that John may have been her grandfather (unbeknown to her )... just a thought.

What was John's occupation from the marriage cert ?

Mary's birth cert would tell you who her mother was.

Name: Mary Ann H Parminter
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1898
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Event Place: Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Volume: 5B
Page: 617
Line Number: 162

Mary Ann H Parminter probably married one of the following people
Name: William Cornish

What was her father's occupation on the MC please?

??????????????????Name: John Harvey Parmeter
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1876
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Event Place: Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Volume: 5B
Page: 610
Line Number: 5

John Harvey Parmeter probably married one of the following people
Name: Tryphena Johns
Name: Evelina Mary J Wilkinson

As Lauren is a newby I have sent her a pm.

Mel

Hi all,

Thanks for that! It's certainly given me some more routes to look down :) Apologies for the late reply - my phone battery died, and I have only just been able to access my laptop after work.

The information from Mary Ann's marriage certificate is as follows:

William Cornish, 31, Bachelor, Labourer HM Dockyard m. Mary Ann Harvey Parminter, 21, Spinster on 10th July 1898. Fathers: Joseph Cornish, Farm Labourer (Deceased), John Harvey Parminter, Excavator (Deceased) (I think it's Excavator - it might be Executor, but the writing is difficult to decipher on the copy I have).

Thanks again for everything so far!

L

ah - so that's his marriage I posted :-D - wonder which of those two he married?

My great grandmother (their youngest daughter) was called Evelina. Good chance she was named after her own grandmother! Its an unusual enough name. I will definitely keep digging though :)

Thanks!

L

Lauren,

In your title and opening post you say her middle name was Howard, but a later post says it was Harvey?

Rose

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Cornwall Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) JOHN HARVEY
Last name PARMITER
Gender Male
Birth year 1832
Baptism year 1832
Baptism date 17 Jun 1832
Parish Poundstock
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name PARMITER
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Relationship Son
Place POUNDSTOCK
County Cornwall


EDIT and from http://v1.cornwall-opc-database.org

Day Month 17-Jun
Year 1832
Parish Or Reg District Poundstock
Forename John Harvey
Surname PARMITER
Sex son
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Mary
Residence Calnathars
Father Rank Profession labourer


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Plymouth Deaths & Burials Transcription
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First name JOHN HARVEY
Last name PHYMATER of 36 Morice Street
Birth year 1833
Death year 1890
Burial day 26
Burial month Jul
Burial Year 1890
Burial year 1890
Age 57
Parish Stoke Damerel
Place PLYMOUTH: STOKE DAMEREL, DEVONPORT
County Devon
Country England
Archive reference 166/98/b
Page 380

interesting website here on Devon Parminter's

THE STORY OF A LA RONDE AND ITS PEOPLE - National Trust


www.nationaltrust.org.uk/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheader=... · PDF file

Margaret Parminter (1721-1800) ... 39 The Will of Mary Parminter 1847 now at Devon Record Office 40 The Will of John Parminter 1837 ...

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Higehr Penhalt, Poundstock, Stratton, Cornwall, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Pearce Male 50 1791 Cornwall
Image Transcription
Elizabeth Pearce Female 45 1796 Cornwall
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Thomas Pearce Male 22 1819 Cornwall
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Elizabeth Pearce Female 20 1821 Cornwall
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Mary Pearce Female 18 1823 Cornwall
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Susanna Pearce Female 13 1828 Cornwall
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William Pearce Male 11 1830 Cornwall
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John Pearce Male 8 1833 Cornwall
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Giles Pearce Male 6 1835 Cornwall
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>>John Parminter Male 9 1832 Cornwall

Yeah I misread the marriage certificate I have initially - as I said, it is a very bad copy! It is definitely Harvey, but it could easily be anything!

I just found that birth :) Hadn't started searching for a death yet, so that's certainly helpful! Thanks :)

I will look into that link, looks interesting!

L

hmmm - he married Tryphena

Name: Tryphena Johns
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1876
Registration District: Stoke Damerel
County: Devon
Event Place: Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
Volume: 5B
Page: 610
Line Number: 185

Tryphena Johns probably married one of the following people
Name: William Kent
Name: John Harvey Parmeter