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George married twice that much we know. I've found a possible wife by the name of Jessie with children Jessie and Alexander but whether they are right or not I don't know. We know about Flora and the two children Neil and Jane though.. Anybody have any idea who George's first wife could be? Not sure who the medallion belonged to as loads of them were called George by the looks of it!!

Jane's granddaughter has told us that her father mentioned an uncle George and uncle Jimmy who he said were his half uncles as it were so presumably these came from George's first marriage before Flora although who and where from I don't know as I haven't found any trace of them yet!

Eureka!

1905 MCFARLANE GEORGE M 74 WEST KILBRIDE /AYR 620/00 0004
George died 5/1/1905 in West Kilbride.
Widower of Jane Carruthers, married to Flora Baxter.
Cause of Death: Tumour of bladder - 6 months.
Informant: son James McFarlane, of 51 Breadalbane Street, Glasgow

So . . .
possibly their marriage:
1872 MCFARLANE GEORGE CARRUTHERS JANE BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0049


Jane's death:
1876 MCFARLANE JANE CARRUTHERS F 33 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0675

This is the birth of their son George:
1876 MCFARLANE GEORGE M KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 1112
Born 5 August 1876, at 11 Myrtle Street.

Presumably Jane died in childbirth, or shortly thereafter.

Can't tell if they had any other children. There are 641 McFarlanes born in Glasgow 1872-6, and can't search using mms. If there were others, they're not with their brother in 1881 or 1891. (ADDED: James, the informant re George's death, must be a son from the first marriage.)

In 1881 and 1891 he's living with his aunt Jeanie (nee McFarlane) and uncle:
[EDIT: Just noticed, Alviegal already posted these on page 2.]

1881 Scotland Census about Geo McFarlane
Name: Geo McFarlane
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Village Of Stockvultin
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 46
LINE: 19
Roll: cssct1881_153
Household Members:
Name Age
John McVean 58
Jane McVean 57
Margt McVean 32
James McVean 21
Geo McFarlane 4


1891 Scotland Census about George McFarlane
Name: George McFarlane
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Slockvullin
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 40
LINE: 6
Roll: CSSCT1891_168
Household Members:
Name Age
John McVean 67
Jeanie McVean 66
George McFarlane 14

I wonder if this could be the son James?
Were he and George twins?? Though the GROS numbers aren't consecutive.

1876 MCFARLANE JAMES M KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/09 0505

EDIT: No, he's no relation - I had a look.
This is costing me a fortune - but I'm hooked!

There were 36 James McFarlanes born in Glasgow 1872-6.

I wonder if this is him, living with relatives?


1881 Scotland Census about James McFarlane
Name: James McFarlane
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Nihall Cottage
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 8
LINE: 20
Roll: cssct1881_153
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Brodie 53 - born "Kilbride G, Buteshire"
Elizabeth Brodie 55 - born Minnigaff, Wigtownshire (it's actually in Kirkcudbrightshire)
James Brodie 26 - born Kilmartin, West Indian planter
James McFarlane 7
James McGilp 31 - under gamekeeper
Barbara Demar 21 - general servant

Ahhhhh!!!! So exciting - That's got to be them!!!!!

Here's the family in 1851:

1851 Scotland Census about Robert Brodie
Name: Robert Brodie
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Brodie
Gender: Male
Where born: Arran, Island of
Parish Number: 521
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Rounfield
Occupation: Gamekeeper To Poltalloch
ED: 4
Page: 10 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 29
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_111
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Brodie 36
Elizabeth Brodie 28
Elizabeth Brodie 8
John Brodie 6
Robert Brodie 4
Margret Brodie 1
John Mclachlan 22 - assistant gamekeeper
Mary McPhayden 22 - house servant
James Allan 28 - plumber at new mansion

Can't find Robert & Elizabeth's marriage. This is the only feasible marriage anywhere in Scotland, but I would have expected Elizabeth to have been married in Minnigaff. And I can't find an Eliza(beth) McFarlane born in Minnigaff. On the other hand, it would give us the McFarlane connection , as James is listed as their nephew in 1881:

12/03/1842 BRODIE ROBERT ELIZA MACFARLANE/FR460 (FR460) M KILMARTIN /ARGYLL 521/00 0020 0269

(Actually, I find this fascinating. I know Poltalloch House - was beautiful, now in ruins. Built 1851-9. And there's James Allan, a plumber at the new mansion, living with the Brodies! )

How do these Brodie's relate in???

BRODIE, Robert. ASSAULTED
Roundfield, Kilmartin Parish, Gamekeeper to Poltalloch, 36 in 1851
MCFARLANE, James.
Slochavullain, Kilmartin Parish, Ground Officer, 64 in 1851

http://www.knapdalepeople.com/ArArichonanNameIndex.html

Re Arichonan:
In 1848 the landowner terminated the leases of four of the tenant families but when police came to enforce the evictions the villagers, supported by others from surrounding townships, rioted. Eventually several were jailed.

http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/argyll/arichonan.shtml

Name: Elizabeth Brodie
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert Brodie
Gender: Female
Where born: Minnigaff, Wigtown
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Mhall Cottage
Occupation: Gamekeeper Wife
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 7
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_91
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Brodie 55 b. Kilbride, Bute
Elizabeth Brodie 48
Elizabeth Brodie 26
Robert Brodie 22Name: Elizabeth Brodie
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert Brodie
Gender: Female
Where born: Minnigaff, Wigtown
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Mhall Cottage
Occupation: Gamekeeper Wife
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 7
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_91
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Brodie 55, Kilbride, Bute
Elizabeth Brodie 48
Elizabeth Brodie 26 b. Kilmartin, Daughter
Robert Brodie 22 Son, b. Kilmartin
James Brodie 16, son, b. Kilmartin
Ann McVean 16, niece, b. Largs, ayrshire
Janet McVean 7, niece, b. Ireland


So looks like Elizabeth Brodie is the sister of George McFarlane and Jeanie McVean ms McFarlane?

ArgyllGran, can you do something with that link please as it is extending the page width. Think there is a way to shorten it but not sure how.

So Elizabeth Brodie was originally a McFarlane, brother of George and Jeanie then?

I think it is certainly looking that way Catherine.

Elizabeth' s death certificate and Jeanie's would confirm the names of their parents. You can use both the maiden and married surnames to search for a female death on Scotlandspeople. You really need to buy some credits and not have ArgyllGran using hers.

Can't see any Eliza(beth) McFarlane born in Minnigaff around the right time.
There are these in Kilmartin area, but wrong parents:

07/02/1823 MCFARLAN ELIZABETH ALEXANDER MCFARLAN/CATHERINE MCFADEN FR456 (FR456) F GLASSARY /ARGYLL 511/00 0030 0034

14/06/1823 MCFARLAN ELIZABETH DONALD MCFARLAN/JANET CAMPBELL FR456 (FR456) F GLASSARY /ARGYLL 511/00 0030 0035


ADDED: Her sister Jean (McVean)'s birthplace varies from Kilmartin, to Kirkcudbrightshire or Dumfriesshire in the censuses, too.

To help narrow the timescale for Elizabeth's death, her she is in 1891

Name: Elizabeth Brodie
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert Brodie
Gender: Female
Where born: Minnigaff, Kirkcudbright
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Mheall House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 5
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1891_168
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Brodie 73
Elizabeth Brodie 66
Margaret McFarlane 42, daughter, b. Kilmartin
John McFarlane 12, Grandson, born: Kilmichael Glassary, Argyllshire
Elizabeth Jane McFarlane 7 Grand Daughter, b. Kilmartin
Catherine Campbell 17 Servant
Duncan McCallum 29, Lodger, Assist. Gamekeeper

Elizabeth's death:

1905 BRODIE ELIZABETH MACFARLANE F 86 KILMARTIN /ARGYLL 521/00 0004

And I'm stopping now for the night!

rootgatherer - I didn't ask argyllgran to look it up for me, she did out of good nature which I am grateful for. If I knew which website she used then I would have done it myself. It's a little unfair to say that.

Elizabeth seems to be unsure of her year of birth or it has been mistranscribed?

1901

Name: Elizabeth Mcfarlane
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilmartin, Argyllshire
Registration Number: 521
Registration district: Kilmartin
Civil Parish: Kilmartin
County: Argyll
Address: Pollalloch Lodge
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 2
LINE: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_180
Household Members:
Name Age
John Stewart 58
Elizabeth Stewart 58
Elizabeth Brodie 83. Mother in law, living on own means
Elizabeth Mcfarlane 17

And to make you aware, I did not know she was paying money either. I thank ArgyllGran for all her research most heartedly.