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looking for marriage poss south africa

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jun 2013 14:15

This is all it says

Florida, Divorce Index, 1927-2001

Name: Richard Arthur Prior
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Valerie
Divorce Date: 12 Jun 1990
County: Duval
Certificate Number: 035041

I'm guessing that Valerie is the first name.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Jun 2013 14:16

The only Florida marriage I can see is the one in 1984.

Added - I've been trying to 'pretend' order a copy of the Divorce certificate via VitalChek which seems to be the prefered organistation for many official BMD certificates.

There is a stumbling block. It requires you so enter the City where the divorce was granted....the information we have only gives the County. It might be Jacksonville

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 16 Jun 2013 15:05

maireCelest

well thats not the same Arthur then as the Marriage already fround was in 1984 unless he was naughty and got marrie dbefore his divorce came through!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Jun 2013 16:55

Has anyone found out when Madelaine Noxon Learch died...assuming she has?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Jun 2013 17:04

Here we go

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about Madeline L. Prior
Madeline L. Prior
SSN: 102-14-6122
Last Residence: 32082 Ponte Vedra Beach, Saint Johns, Florida, United States of America
Born: 16 Aug 1922
Died: Feb 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 about Madeleine Learch Prior
Madeleine Learch Prior
Death Date: 25 Feb 1990
County of Death: Duval
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 67
Race: White
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1922

Web: Florida, Find A Grave Index, 1800-2012 about Madeline Learch Prior
e: Madeline Learch Prior
Birth Date: 16 Aug 1922
Age at Death: 67
Death Date: 25 Feb 1990
Burial Place: Atlantic Beach, Duval County, Florida, USA

Inscription reads Beloved Wife & Loving Mother

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 16 Jun 2013 18:25

She died before Richard then. is their a refrence to his buriel?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Jun 2013 23:27

Although the burial info was linked from Ancestry, it has a website of its own.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gs&

There was no burial for Richard in the same cemetery. You could try searching all of Florida/Duval Co through the link. It is always possible that he was cremated.

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Jun 2013 22:23

Just found this on a french site:-

Richard Arthur PRIOR
1919 - 1994
Naissance : 1 aoû 1919
Weymouth, Dorset, England
Décès : 1994
Johannesburg
Membres de la famille
Ex-conjoint(e) :
Prior (born Maercks)
Enfant :
Prior, Sr.

Which goes with the story that he went to South Africa.
As both conjoint (spouse) and enfant (child) are marked Privé (private) it could very well be that they are both still alive.
Note that it is marked Ex-spouse,also states that he divorced but does not give a date for this.


Above was posted by:-

caitip Web Site, géré par Marilyn Prior

Also states:-

married:- 11 may 1943 in Durban

..............so you could try getting a copy of the certificate.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 18 Jun 2013 17:47

Wow Catherine that does sound a promising lead thanks

Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Jul 2013 10:23

Hi Jennifer,
Just back from two weeks in England.
Have sent a message to the owner of the web site that I found. She hasn't updated her site for two years but hopefully she will receive the message and reply. Will let you know if I hear anything.
Fingers crossed.
Catherine

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 5 Jul 2013 22:31

Thank you Catherine

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 5 Mar 2014 21:19

Just to let you know I have finally had a reply from Alan Noxon he is checking out his Richard Arthur Prior. Just waiting for his wife to check their family tree. just checking Catherine that you never heard back from you lead?

Patience is a virture or so my mother used to say

Jenny

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 7 Mar 2014 09:07

I'm know begining to think that the two refrences above both the French and the American could in fact be the same person! Have not managed to track down the Marriage cert for Durban..anyone have any knowledge on how to go about getting this?

Much appreciated

Jenny

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Mar 2014 10:01

Hi Jenny,
No have heard nothing from the owner of the tree and after all this time I'm not holding my breath. :-( , but I will certainly let you know if they do.
Can't help for South Africa, have never had to go there so not sure how to go about ordering certs.
Sorry.
Catherine

EDIT:- Have just sent another message to Marilyn, but not hopeful as she hasn't come back to her tree since the last time. Fingers crossed.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Mar 2014 11:48

Hello again,

This would fit with the marriage on the tree I found with wife's name Maercks, dated 1943, Durban:-

Nom: Richard Arthur Prior
Type d'événement: Marriage
Date de l'événement: 11 May 1943
Lieu de l'événement: Durban, Natal, South Africa
Sexe: Male
Âge: 23
Année de naissance (estimée): 1920
Race: European
Occupation:- Sub.Lieut R.N.V.R.
Address: 44 Burlington Ct., Marine Parade, Durban
Noted:- Husband domiciled in England
Nom du conjoint: Helene Mechtild Maercks
Sexe du Conjoint: Female
Conjoint Age: 26
Année de naissance du conjoint (estimée): 1917
Race: European
Occupation:- Secretary
Address: 44 Burlington Ct., Marine Parade, Durban
ID de référence: 1266
Numéro de film: 1938571
Numéro de dossier numérique: 004236674
Numéro de l'image: 01217

.....................so looks like this one went over with the forces.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Mar 2014 12:13

This person offers help with S.A. bmd:-

http://southafricanfamilyhistory.com/birth-marriage-and-death-records/

..........she may be able to advice you?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 7 Mar 2014 12:33

Catherine thank you so much, maybe I am starting to untangle this mystery. This has got to be him.

will try and follow this up

will keep you posted

Jenny

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Mar 2014 14:44

The marriage is on familysearch.org. You can see the actual marriage record, so if it turns out to be your man and you would like a copy for your files, then just go the site, put the details in and you can download, or make a copy it.
:-)

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 7 Mar 2014 16:31

Hi Catherine,

Yes got thank you :-)

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 13 Mar 2014 15:49

Had an email back with a positive reponse, my infromation has been passed onto annother member of the family who is still in touch with his south african family so I am waiting with baited breath

thanks to all who have helped me get this far

will keep you posted

Jenny

:-D