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Have you done further research on Buxhall, relating to John and Mary...(can see other Baptisms for them, also Burials for a John 1835 and Mary 1835) was there a Will for that John?...(as said Ipswich Branch of Suffolk Archives would be the one to contact, not seeing a lot online)
Chris :)
(not sure if below was the one with 1792 (4th April) Marriage)
12 August 1835 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk,
Died
Lately, in the 83d year of his age, Mr. John Barnes, of Buxhall, in this county.
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription (Find My Past)
(Buxhall)
(from above his Burial, 4 July 1835)
(Mary, 29 Dec 1835, age 75)
(and John, 15 Nov 1845 (a Baptism for him 1 July 1792, to above couple)
14 July 1832 - The Suffolk Chronicle; or Weekly General Advertiser &
Married
On the 26th ult., Mr. John Barnes, farmer, Buxhall, to Elizabeth Witton. only daughter of the late Mr. Wm Witton, of Ashfield.
(another Son to couple, his Baptism 25 April 1802)
08 April 1829 - Bury and Norwich Post - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Married
On Tuesday last, Mr. Stephen Barnes, farmer, of Buxhall, to Miss Elizabeth Daking, of Boxford.
(and other two Baptisms (Buxhall) both 30 Sep 1798, Robert and William)
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This is the entry from Ancestry - ignore the 'Barnes' against Emma's name - it's Ancestry's American way of doing things. The original is Emma Roper, which is correct as she was married by the time she was baptised.
Posting for info, as Mary was unable to C&P.
Name: Emma Roper Barnes
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1812
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Barnes
Mother: Mary
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1836
Baptism Place: Framlingham, Suffolk, England
Denomination: Presbyterian or Unitarian
Piece Title: Piece 3620: Framlingham, Old Meeting House (Unitarian or Presbyterian), 1820-1837
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cheers Erika,I saved the handwritten transcript to desk top and copied and sent it by email,but that didn't work it was too for David to read.
Edit Just sent it again,he might be able to read it this time.
Maryb.
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One below?...
(looking at places, google maps, not far)
Chris :)
Suffolk Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) John
Last name Barnes
Marriage year 1796
Marriage date 19 Feb 1796
Marriage place Debenham
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Foulger
Groom's parish Redlingfield
County Suffolk
Place Debenham
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 90
Marriage date 19 Feb 1796
Groom forename John
Groom surname BARNES
Groom condition Single man
Groom parish Redingfield
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname FOULGER
Bride condition Single woman
Witness William THURKETTLE
Witness Ann THURKETTLE
Register note Licence. SRO Fiche 11
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(Witnesses)
County Suffolk
Place Debenham
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 88
Marriage date 15 Feb 1796
Groom forename William
Groom surname THIRKETTLE
Groom condition Single man
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname FOULGER
Bride condition Single woman
Witness Samuel BARNES
Witness John THURKETTLE
Register note Licence. Groom signed William Thurkettle. SRO Fiche 11
(if Mary below)
Baptism
County Suffolk
Place Debenham
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 24 Jan 1775
Person forename Mary
Person sex F
Father forename Robert
Father surname FOULGER
Mother forename Anne
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Mary. received the photo document. Fantastic thank you.
Erika thank you also for the Ancestry entry.
Chris I have been researching the Buxhall Barnes for a number of weeks and picked up the marraige of John and Mary 1792 however the 1796 Barnes marraige to Mary may well be the one especially with the Grooms parish as Redlingfield.
We are getting closer I believe.
Thanks again to all.
Cheers
David
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Ancestry.co.uk tree so please double check
John Barnes 1736 -1814 and Mary 1736-1817 had Samuel 1772
also John 1766-1845.
John married Mary Foulger 19/2/1896 had 6 children no Emma,Mary died 1829 and John married Eliza Button 18/11/1829.
Don't know if above is correct,just copying what the tree has.
Mary Foulger baptised 11/3/1778 Eye Suffolk by Robert and Mary Foulger
Maryb
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Thanks Mary
As we know John and Mary were both still alive in 1836 at Emma's baptism which is key to the research.
It seems they were members of the Unitarian Church and as Non Conformists not all the information seems to be out there.
I will look at the others.
The below may also be connected but the spelling of Mary's surname varies but this is not unusual as you know.
Mary Folger Barnes
mentioned in the record of Anne Barnes
Name: Mary Folger Barnes
sex: Female
Husband: John Barnes
Daughter: Anne Barnes
Other information in the record of Anne Barnes
from England Births and Christenings
Name: Anne Barnes
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 03 Jul 1796
Christening Date (Original): 03 JUL 1796
Christening Place: Suffolk, England
Father's Name: John Barnes
Mother's Name: Mary Folger Barnes
County Suffolk
Place Debenham
Church name St Mary
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 90
Marriage date 19 Feb 1796
Groom forename John
Groom surname BARNES
Groom condition Single man
Groom parish Redingfield
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname FOULGER
Bride condition Single woman
Cheers
David
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I don't think you can take it for granted that Emma's parents were alive at the time of her baptism. Their names are on the record merely because they were her parents.
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Hi Erika
You may well be correct. However John Barnes and a Mary? were alive in 1829 at Emma's wedding to Osborn.
As requested we obtained a copy of the marriage of Osborn Roper to Emma Barnes, which took place at Redlingfield Suffolk and reads as follows:
Osborn Roper of the parish of Redisham single man and Emma Barnes of this parish single woman were married in this church by Licence this twenty seventh day of October in the Year One thousand eight hundred and twenty nine by me John Knevett Curate.
Osborn and Emma both signed
Witnesses were John Barnes, Mary Ann (surname appears to be Roper)? and William Green.
We have the marriage record and Emma's baptism in 1836 which indicates she was born in 1812 in Redlingfield. Finding that record of birth is the one critical one now unless I am missing something that is staring me in the face.
We continue to work on it to find the missing links.
Cheers
David
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Births were not recorded until 1837 - the baptism is the only record you will be able to see.
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Being Unitarian and a baptism as an adult I doubt we will find anything else re Emma.
Cheers
David
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