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Sheila
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30 Nov 2012 18:50 |
Please someone find out what happened to Philip Puxley D O B not known who married Helen Chown b 1884 in 1915 St Thomas Devon. I know Helen went to live in Swansea but not when or if Philip was with her. She lived with Frederick Webb for some time before they married in 1956 Exeter. I would like to know what happened after she married Philip ,where they went and how she ended up in Swansea. Did Philip die or did they divorce.
Thank you Sheila
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30 Nov 2012 18:58 |
Found this:
England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976 Name: Helen Chown Spouse's Name: Philip Puxley Publication Date: 8 Apr 1956
It says "Became wife of Philip Puxley. advt for her"
Don't know what it means, perhaps he was trying to find her and was placing an advert?
Or, perhaps he'd died and her whereabouts were being sought to inform her. Perhaps that's when she knew she was legally free to remarry?
EDIT: Looks like my second guess was correct -
"PUXLEY - Philip Puxley (Deceased). Anyone having knowledge of the whereabouts of Helen Puxley (nee Chown), wife of the late Philip Puxley of 1 Brookdale, New Southgate, London, N11 please communicate with Messrs Hamilton-Hill and Partner, solicitors, 263 Green Lanes, Palmers Green, London, N13"
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30 Nov 2012 19:06 |
England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976 about Helen Puxley Name: Helen Puxley Spouse's Name: Philip Puxley Publication Date: 8 Apr 1956
This one says hes deceased, solicitors are looking for her.
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30 Nov 2012 19:08 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Philip Puxley Name: Philip Puxley Probate Date: 25 Sep 1954 Death Date: 24 May 1951 Death Place: Middlesex, England Registry: London, England
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006 about Philip Puxley Name: Philip Puxley Birth Date: abt 1879 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1951 Age at Death: 72 Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 418
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30 Nov 2012 19:09 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Philip Puxley Name: Philip Puxley Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1878 Registration district: Poplar Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 599 (click to see others on page)
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MarieCeleste
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30 Nov 2012 19:22 |
The detail of the 1954 probate record posted above reads:
"Philip Puxley, of 1 Brookdale, arnos Grove, Middlesex died at Whittington Hospital, Highgate Wing, London, N19. Administration to Louise Fanny Mitchell, married woman. Effects £431 0s 9d
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MarieCeleste
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30 Nov 2012 19:49 |
I think Louisa Fanny Mitchell was Philip Puxley's sister and this may be her marriage:
Civil Registration event: Marriage
Name: PUXLEY, Louisa Fanny Registration district: Hackney County: London Year of registration: 1910 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 1B Page no: 655 MarriageFinder: Louisa Fanny Puxley married one of the following people:
KING, Edward Charles MITCHELL, John << STENSON, Alice Edith
Philip appears to have been a witness at the marriage:
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Louisa Fanny Puxley, spinster Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Age: 26 Spouse Name: John Mitchell, bachelor. A hat maker Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 9 Jan 1910 Parish: Hackney St Peter Borough: Hackney Father Name: Philip Puxley (Deceased) Nautical Instrument maker. Spouse Father Name: John Mitchell - hatmaker Register Type: Parish Register
Address for both: 139 Hertford Road
Witnesses: Philip Puxley and Albert Mitchell.
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Sheila
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30 Nov 2012 21:13 |
Thank you for the information. Is there anywhere that would say if Helen ever went to London with Philip or how she landed up in Swansea or maybe she went to London and met Philip there before coming back to Devon to get married.
Sheila
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30 Nov 2012 21:53 |
I'm amazed fhow many Puxley's there are in Swansea!!!! 278 going back to the 1600s
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patchem
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30 Nov 2012 23:51 |
Have you got Philip and Helen's marriage certificate, and do you know of any children? Helen was 31 at marriage, in wartime. Which side of the family are you connected to? Thanks
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MarieCeleste
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1 Dec 2012 12:23 |
Can't see Philip & Helen together on London ER Couldn't see any children on FreeBMD, either.
As suggested, the marriage cert might help.
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Sheila
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1 Dec 2012 17:11 |
Hi patchem/MarieCeleste. Sorry no marriage cert ,only knew her when in my teens and she was with Frederick Webb in Swansea and they came to stay with us at Stoke Canon in Devon. Have only just found out she was married to Philip Puxley, No children were spoken about or any other family. Helen and my grandmother Susan were half sisters their father was Frederick Chown b 1849 Exminster In 1911 census Helen was living with her parents Frederick and Jane at Middle Tousington Cotts Exminster. AS there are no Aunts or Uncles alive I doubt if I shall ever find out how it came about that Philip was in London and Helen in Swansea. Thank you Sheila
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5 Dec 2012 18:20 |
Hello everyone I have been looking on Free BMD and there are a lot of Frederick W Webb`s getting married in the London area.Some in Pancras and Hackney where Philip Puxley was. I am wondering if my Frederick W Webb b 1877 Swansea went to live in London when he was younger and got married but then he met Helen Puxley nee Chown and they both separated from their other half and then went to Swansea to live. Is there any way of checking if this could have happened please. Thank you Sheila
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patchem
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5 Dec 2012 23:06 |
Which censuses have you found your Frederick W Webb in? (Parents' names?) Thanks
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MarieCeleste
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6 Dec 2012 09:28 |
Could this possibly be him in 1911? (Location seems to fit)
WEBB, Frederick William Head Married M 33 1878 Salesman Collector Single Sewing Machine Coy Ltd Londore Swansea Wales WEBB, Fanny Maud Wife Married6 years F 31 1880 Cordiff S Wales WEBB, Charles Henry Son M 4 1907 Cordiff S Wales WEBB, Frederick Lawrence Son M 2 1909 Dedonport Devon ARSCOTT, Emma Servant Single F 38 1873 General Domestic South Lolka Devon VICTOR, Ethelmay Servant Single F 16 1895 Nursemaid Domestic Devonport Devon
RG number: RG14 Piece: 13017 Reference: RG14PN13017 RG78PN751 RD278 SD1 ED3 SN250 Registration District: Devonport Sub District: St Aubyn Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Devonport
Address: 110 Fore St Devonport County: Devonshire
Only those 2 children born. _____________________________________________________________________
Most likely the marriage for that couple:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1905 EVANS Rachel Cardiff 11a 425 LOCK Fanny Maud Cardiff 11a 425 << WATKINS Tom Cardiff 11a 425 WEBB Frederick William Cardiff 11a 425 <<
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MarieCeleste
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6 Dec 2012 10:01 |
If the 1911 I posted is correct then it suggests that everyone may have met in Devon. Philip Puxley had Devonshire connections as he was there on the 1891 census, Frederick William Webb was living there and so was Helen.
There's nothing to suggest Helen ever lived in London. She may have started a relationship with FW Webb whilst in Devon and when their marriages broke up Philip went back to London and she and FW went to his native Swansea.
This is purely hypothesis so you really do need to order some certificates to get more detail.
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Sheila
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6 Dec 2012 11:39 |
Good morning Patchem /MarieCeleste. Your information sounds very likely ,I had not thought of a Devon connection. I found on Find My Past 1881 census a Frederick W Webb b 1877 Swansea which matches with father William b 1852 Talgarth Brecknockshire mother Elizabeth b 1859 Cymmer Glamorganshire. Then looking on Free BMD I think the maiden name for Elizabeth was Price and they married Mar 1873 Crickhowell. 1881 living 20 Westbury St,Swansea(Town) it all matches so I hope I have the right people. Thank you for all the help you have given me .
Sheila
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15 Mar 2013 18:34 |
Copied across from
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1321417?jump=1321417
Please can someone help find the father of Louisa Fanny Puxley. b 1883 Bow MarieCeleste found her marriage to John Mitchell which shows her father as Philip Puxley but I have not been able to find him or the name of his wife.
I have a brother of Louisa ,Philip b 1879 Poplar, Bow,London don`t know if there were any more children it would be a great help if you could also find that out for me.
So many with the name Philip.
Thank you Sheila
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15 Mar 2013 18:46 |
Name: Louisa F Tuxley Age (Original): 1 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1880 Birthplace: Bow, Middlesex, England Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Marital Status: Single Occupation: Address: 36 Morville St Event Place: Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow, Middlesex, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341108 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 489 / 27 Page Number: 47 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Philip Tuxley M 35 Mile End, Middlesex, England Wife Fanny Tuxley F 21 Bampton, Middlesex, England Son Philip Tuxley M 2 Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter Louisa F Tuxley F 1 Bow, Middlesex, England
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15 Mar 2013 18:46 |
Births Mar 1880 (>99%) PUXLEY Louisa Fanny Poplar 1c 657
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