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17 Nov 2011 12:31 |
Not sure if this is correct, but may be worth checking out. There is a marriage 22/5/1961 for Leonard Stevenson on the link MarieCeleste gave. It shows him as 24, a boot and show operative, father Jack (deceased), and gives his address as 5 The Retreat, Barrow upon Soar.
There is also a christening for a child in 1964 on the same site.
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Perchino
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17 Nov 2011 18:14 |
Hi rootgatherer, Your geography is pretty good! I certainly would not rule out Melton Mowbray as a possibility. A clue on occupations would give help, guidance and support for change of location. But my inclination is Derby is a red herring. Edit: Re above Jack could be John.
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17 Nov 2011 20:13 |
Hi all Thanks to everybody for there help. Wells step family prety sussed now, spoken to my mum and Jack Stevenson as on marriage cert is Leonards real dad. That should be Derby link, just got to find one that matches age range? Only document with Leonards DOB on, army medical card 16/6/1936. Im still told his real dad died young?
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chrissiex
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17 Nov 2011 20:39 |
edit, you posted while I was working on all this :-) so it probably isn't relevant now but I'll leave for now it just in case
I don't like posting things about possibly living people, but it can be removed if wrong ... for children of unmarried parents it can be lucky to check the list on the page
Births Sep 1937 Stevenson Leon B Stevenson Barrow S. 7a 243 Bradley-Stevenson Leon B Bradley-Stevenson Barrow S. 7a 243
that one is a little unusual ! it looks like a classic double-barreled name where the first part is alternately given as an initial
usually a double registration is done under the mother's surname and the father's surname but in this case it seems to be both the mother's surname, different forms of the same name
the name Bradley-Stevenson itself is unique to Loughborough
George died 1949
the births in Loughborough 1923 onward have various mothers' surnames Brooks Chambers Coulson ... the marriages probably show as Stevenson ... yes for example
Marriages Dec 1922 STEVENSON Frederick J B Coulson Loughborough 7a 304 Coulson Lois E Stevenson Loughbro' 7a 304
Marriages Sep 1932 Chambers Olive A Stevenson Loughbro' 7a 447 Stevenson Arthur B Chambers Loughbro' 7a 447
and well hmm :-)
Marriages Mar 1923 Brooks Margaret Stevenson Loughbro' 7a 211 > > Stevenson Leonard B Brooks Loughbro' 7a 211
the Leon birth is 4th of eight 1923 to 1948
someone here at genesreunited has some of those Bradley-Stevensons in their tree, seems to be descended from the 1923 birth
also there are numerous births with mother's surname Bradley-Stevenson starting 1921, surnames Styles Wright Mitchell Clarke and I won't list the later ones, one in 1945 has the surname and mother's surname the same
I don't see a marriage or death for Leon B Stevenson or Leon Bradley-Stephenson or see him on the electoral roll recently under either name
if his mother was unmarried I wonder whether his father was Jack but not Stevenson ?
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chrissiex
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17 Nov 2011 21:08 |
Births Mar 1897 Stevenson Leonard Bradley Loughbro' 7a 136
died 1978 Leicestershire ( I don't have a sub to see details, but born 1897 )
what I am wondering is whether Leon 1937 was called Leonard as suggested and was a child of his daughter or younger sister
1911 household
BRADLEY STEVENSON GEORGE 1870 41 Loughborough Leicestershire BRADLEY STEVENSON ANNIE 1877 34 BRADLEY STEVENSON LEONARD 1897 14 BRADLEY STEVENSON EMMA 1900 11 BRADLEY STEVENSON FRANCIS 1902 9 BRADLEY STEVENSON GEORGE 1907 4 BRADLEY STEVENSON FLORRIE 1909 2 and Births Mar 1914 - STEVENSON Beatrice M / Brewin Loughbro 7a 251 Births Mar 1917 - Stevenson Harold /Brewin Loughbro 7a 189
I seem to have accidentally deleted George's marriage from my other post
Marriages Sep 1895 Bradley-Stevenson George Loughbro' 7a 241 Brewin Annie Loughbro' 7a 241 Stevenson George Bradley Loughbro' 7a 241
the name starts out in 1856, marriage of James Bradley Stevenson in Ashby de la Zouch after that, several marriages in Loughborough 1882-1895, one Nottingham 1900, who must be his children
Marriages Jun 1938 Davie James F Stevenson Loughbro' 7a 459 Stevenson Beatrice M B Davie Loughbro' 7a 459
Marriages Mar 1930 Bradley Stevenson Florence Clarke Loughbro' 7a 218 Clarke Ernest A Bradley Stevenson Loughbro' 7a 218 Stevenson Florence B Clarke Loughbro' 7a 218
could Beatrice have been the mum of Leon before marrying ?
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KevinBarrow
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17 Nov 2011 21:30 |
Hi Chrissie, Yes its possible, only one way to find out. I will have to get a copy of Leon B Stevensons birth cert, if only to eliminate him. He was born in the village where i still live.
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chrissiex
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17 Nov 2011 21:34 |
the George Bradley Stevenson household in 1911 is in
Thorpe Acre And Dishley Garendon,? Loughborough,? Leicestershire,? England
and there are also two households in the same place in 1911 with the surname BRADLY STEVENSON
headed by a Samuel 1860 and a John 1868
they are also children of James B Stevenson and Mary ( married 1856 ) in the 1871 census
there is a Leonard William 1904 in one of thoe families so it seems to have been a family name
( I would suspect that James was the son of an unmarried Ms Stevenson and his father a Bradley )
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chrissiex
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17 Nov 2011 21:36 |
I think it's a very interesting possibility :-)
as may have been mentioned though ... how to tell whether it is the right person? with no father's name ...
if the birthdate were right but for the year that would certainly be almost a clincher
the name Jack Stevenson on the marriage certificate I would not put too much store in if Leonard's parents were not married ... it could have been his father's real given name but not surname for instance, people did that all the time, he may even have thought his father was the Stevenson
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Perchino
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17 Nov 2011 21:42 |
On the Barrow website there is a burial of:
John Thomas Stevenson 7 December 1944 Aged 48 Burial number 1418
Is this Jack, Leonard's father?
Not finding a death registered in December 1944. Not an obvious war death.
Kevin, are you able to go to the cemetery and see if there is a headstone to the grave? Inscription would be useful.
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chrissiex
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17 Nov 2011 21:56 |
my money by the way is on Beatrice 1914 ( 1913 ) being the mother of Leon 1937
Beatrice May Davie died 2004 Leicestershire
she married in Loughborough in 1938 and had three children
I see probable marriages for the two girls in Leicestershire but can't see details ... I've figured out one of them ... four kids ... one of them is a member of genesreunited
I'll send you all those details privately just so you can store them away in case
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Perchino
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17 Nov 2011 22:21 |
Only John Thomas I can see on the 1901 Census in a county near Derby (nothing for Derbyshire):
Name John T Stevenson Relation to Head of Family Son Age Last Birthday 5 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Juvenile Condition as to Marriage Where Born Staffs Chorley Address Chorley Hall Cottage Civil Parish Farewell & Chorley Rural District Lichfield Town or Village or Hamlet Farewell & Chorley Ecclesiastical Parish Farewell & Chorley Parliamentary Borough or Division Lichfield County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Staffordshire Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District Language Infirmity
Goodnight!!
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chrissiex
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17 Nov 2011 22:44 |
Perchino there is only one birth that would fit that age at death
Births Jun 1896 Stevenson John Thomas Wolstanton 6b 160
here is a marriage in the right place
Marriages Mar 1935 Aris Grace E Stevenson Barrow S. 7a 302 Stevenson John T Aris Barrow S. 7a 302
and one birth 1937 in Leicester
Births Mar 1913 Aris Grace E Hyman Leicester 7a 402
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Perchino
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18 Nov 2011 06:59 |
Hi chrissiex, on the Barrow website the date of burial and place of death, Barrow, are given but no date of death. I am thinking there may be a more than usual delay between dates of death and burial. As place is Barrow it cannot be the one of taking a body across the county boundary. Perhaps there was an inquest? I saw both the Wolstanton (Staffordshire) and Durham births neither of which, of course, is Derbyshire. There is a link missing in the original story. Did John Thomas (Jack) move: 1)from place of birth to Barrow 2) from Barrow to Derby (ie he worked in Derby) 3) from Derby to Barrow I was trying to find Census close to year of birth before returning to searching birth and death records.
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Perchino
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18 Nov 2011 07:22 |
Kevin, I have no idea whether or not it was usual practice for National Service personnel to be given their medical records or for them to produce their birth certificates at that time. I have heard men say they were called up for National Service which indicates the Government had a data base to work from. My suggestion is that you look in your local telephone directory for the British Legion local branch and see if someone will look at the record with you and glean whatever information you can. If you know where your father was based, the regiment etc and if he served abroad and where there are military websites which may produce more information.
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chrissiex
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18 Nov 2011 14:47 |
well hm, if Leon Stevenson is Leonard then his father wasn't Jack Stevenson :-)
that burial is an odd one, there just isn't a death to go with at all
a John T Stevenson married Grace E Aris in Barrow in 1935, that's the
if Grace E Stevenson remarried that would be an indication that the 1935 marriage was the JTS who died in 1944
Marriages Sep 1946 ? Goodband Arthur Stevenson Nottingham 3c 1161 Stevenson Grace E Goodband Nottingham 3c 1161 ... no he was probably born 1928
without my sub I'm having a hard time looking for a death for Grace ... oh and of course she could have died before her Stevenson husband
the Wolstanton birth isn't Derbyshire but it may be a bit of a stretch to count on Jack having been born in Derbyshire since we don't even know he existed yet let alone where he was born let alone whether he was called John Thomas :-)
but a marriage of a John T Stevenson in Barrow in 1935 would look a lot like the John Thomas Stevenson who was buried there in 1944
no Leonard birth to that marriage though, the one ( male ) birth was in June Q 1937
this looks like the 1896 JTS in the 1911 census
STEVENSON JOHN THOMAS 1896 15 Stafford Staffordshire
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chrissiex
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18 Nov 2011 15:12 |
I just noticed ( I was leaving the stepfamily aside so as not to confuse myself :-) )
the stepfamily
WELLS, Gerturde Lousie
was living in Loughborough in 1911 ... Loughborough is where the Bradley-Stevensons ( Leon B Stevenson 1937 ) are all from
I'm stil holding out on my idea that Stevenson was Leonard's mother's name and his father may have been 'Jack' just not Jack Stevenson !
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KevinBarrow
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18 Nov 2011 18:06 |
Hi all Stevenson, Wells, Bradley Stevenson are all around this area. There is some Bradley Stevensons in Sileby the next village, me mum says i should go on the knocker round the village to people who grew up with him or knew him to see if i can get any more info. All the surnames can be linked to Barrow also.
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chrissiex
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18 Nov 2011 19:20 |
well your mum has a very good idea :-) I'd try to find somebody who was a neighbour or friend of a friend maybe just for an introduction
somebody thereabouts must know Leon and who his mother was, if not his father, and what did become of him after his birth ... of course he would well still be living and just not have married
if he was a son of Beatrice B-S I wondered whether he might have taken her husband's name but I could find no trace of him that way either
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Perchino
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18 Nov 2011 20:46 |
Kevin, Your Mum's idea has a lot of merit. (LOL) Please would you follow this link to unknown subjects of Barrow and see if you can identify anyone who may have known your family:
http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/unknown-picture-gallery,457087.html
This could open up other sources.
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Perchino
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18 Nov 2011 20:52 |
Just seen this death:
Name John J Stevenson Year of Registration 1944 Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District Barrow upon Soar Registration County Leicestershire Age at Death: 43 Volume Number 7A Volume Page 144
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