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hi Nicola,thanks but dont think thats him as born in wrong place. My one is a Norfolk man.He married his 1st wife of less than a year,margaret Terras in Kings Lynn. She died in West Ham. She came from that area. My assumption is perhaps she died in child birth with her original family. William married again in West Ham his second wife. Hwere the second wife came from i have no idea as the Surname Midwin seems a bit rare .I'm suspecting it may be a mistranscription but from what ,Ive no clue.

Sorry Nicola our posts seem to be out of sync, lol. Yes I saw that death and assumed it was williams eldest child as it was 9 years old. But if as you say it is 39 then that must be his death sadly. that would explain Eleanors remarriage in 1899. seems she kept her former husbands name. I wonder if they managed to have any children between marrying in 1882 & 1892?

On ocassions the information might not be accurately written down as the enumerator wrote it not the families, also sometimes the information is mistranscribed. 1911 was the first time famlies wrote the census' themselves.

if you search for the information again on freebmd you can look at the image yourself for free by clicking on the glasses next to name.

1891 census (Gibson might be mistranscribed Gildon)
William G Gildon 37
born c 1854 East Winch, Norfolk, England
Head

Spouse: Eleanor H Gildon


Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Forest Gate
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham

Household members

William G Gildon 37 c1854 Occupation is a Public Elementary Teacher
Eleanor H Gildon 30 c1861??
Percival W Gildon 7 c1884
Horace H Gildon 6 c1885

Looks like the 1891 census results I gave you are correct

Marriage March quarter 1899
Gibson Eleanor Hamilton W. Ham 4a 52
Parker Ernest Wilfred W. Ham 4a 52

1901 census

Horace and Percival are down as Stepsons to Ernest Parker and Mothers name is Eleanor H Parker



Civil parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Little Ilford St Barnabas
Town: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: East Ham


Household Members:

Ernest W Parker 28 occupation School Master
Eleanor H Parker 39
Enid K Parker 1
Percival W Gibson 17 Occupation looks like Junior Draughtsman
Horace H Gibson 16 Occupation looks like Junior Draughtsman
Walter H Parker 34 (Brother) Occupation Builders Clerk Works

Yes, William's wife would have married under her then legal name, not her maiden name.

So if that death in 1892 is in fact your William Jarvis, it does look like Eleanor was his wife and remarried in 1899

..which would explain why she is not Mrs Gibson on 1901 census.

Where does it give for Eleanor's birthplace on 1891 census ?

Could she be this one ?

Births Jun 1861
Houldsworth Eleanor Hamilton - Stepney 1c 505

Thanks ever so much to you both. I feel that these must be the right families.

Mike- yes ,I found the Houldsworth one also and wondered as it seems the most likely fit,but I do not know how on earth they could get MIdwin from it in the register unless there is some kind of stepchild name switching going on?

Her birth place is Bow in 1891 census btw, Bow /stepney very close.

On the 1891 census it says she was born
Poplar, London, England

1901 census Bow, London

Bow, Bromley and Poplar are 3 Parishes near each other Poplar was the registration district.

1871 census for the birth that Mike found looks like right birth

Name: Eleanor Mouldsworth 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Midwin
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar

Mary Midwin 49
Trina Mouldsworth 11
Eleanor Mouldsworth 10
Henrietta Mouldsworth 8

Definitely worth getting Eleanor Houldsworth's birth certificate....she obviously took on the Midwin name for whatever reason.
Can't find a marriage for Houldsworth/Midwin .. she could even be adopted.

Eleanor's sisters ?


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Births Mar 1863
HOULDSWORTH Henrietta Ann - Stepney 1c 531

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(They transcribed Houldsworth wrongly so maybe this is "Trina ")

Births Dec 1859
HOULDSWORTH Hria Mariam - Poplar 1c 127

Interesting ... if this is Trina/Hria/Mia's marriage, she didn't get married under the name Midwin.

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Marriages Dec 1879 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Baker Emma Poplar 1c 1241
Brabham George William Poplar 1c 1241
BRABNAM George William Poplar 1c 1241
Houldsworth Mia Marian - Poplar 1c 1241
Tarling Charles Poplar 1c 1241

erm, this is puzzling.....not really sure what to make of it....unless late baptism


Name: Eleanor Hamilton Midwin
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1881
Baptism Date: 16 Feb 1881
Father's name: John Midwin
Mother's name: Mary Inid Midwin
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Name: Eleanor Hamilton Midwin
Spouse Name: William Jarvis Gibson
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 30 Jul 1882
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Struggling to find any of them in 1881 census

and strangely, the ONLY Midwin record on freebmd is Eleanor's marriage

theres this too which deserves a look at

Marriages Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Golding Isaiah Mile End 1c 1068
Harris Elizabeth Mile End 1c 1068
Houldsworth John Mile End Old Town 1c 1068
Midwinfor Mary Mile End 1c 1068
Midwinter Mary Mile End 1c 1068

Enumerator could of put down Madden instead of Midwin/Medwin

1881

Name: Ellen Maddin
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bow, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Twickenham
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Amyand Park 13 Ryder Terrace
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Twickenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1342
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
William Joseph Shayer 70
Susanna Shayer 68
Susan Williams 43
Maud Williams 8
Ellen Maddin 21