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If the Alexander that ArgyllGran found is the right one ( :-) ), then Samuel & Ann GILL had another son George G in 1886 in Central Cumberland district of NSW soon after arriving (reg 18489).

Sadly he died in Parramatta in 1887 (reg 7359).

Interestingly there is a death of a Samuel GILL that same year, also in Parramatta - and his parents are given as Samuel and ELSPETH (reg 8773).

This from the Cumberland Mercury, 24 Nov 1886:
A MAN named Samuel Gill, aged 37 years, died in the Hospital yesterday morning of stonemason's phthisis.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/248797810

This fits the timeline perfectly...

An Annie Gill is listed as living in Francis Street, Rookwood in 1890.

Do you have Alexander's marriage certificate? I'd suggest you start there. If the parents names are correct then I'd be inclined take a punt and order Samuel's death certificate. It should list wife, children and time in the colony.

In case you don't have it, a notice for Alexander:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/94173598

AHA!

Samuel GILL, aged 37, was interred at Rookwood Cemetery on 24 Nov 1886.

With him is George G GILL, aged 11, buried 19/05/1887 and Elsie GILL, aged 18, buried 22/11/1892.

Zone B RR 354

See http://www.rookwoodcemetery.com.au/deceased-search-engine

:-D

FYI children of Alexander Robertson GILL & Elizabeth eldest 5 born in Ballina district and youngest in Casino district.

Annie Elizabeth b. 1902, d. 1977
Minnie C b. 1903, d. ?
Leslie A. b. 1907
Gladys Elspeth b. 1910
Alexander R. b. 1913, d. 1913
Evelyn b. 1916, d. 1960

Elizabeth died in January 1916 in Casino district, so seems likely she died in childbirth with Evelyn.

Evelyn GILL married Frank WOODHOUSE in 1936 (reg 14530) and died in 1960 (reg 7782), shown as daughter of Alexander Reberson and Elizabeth. It's possible she was fostered out as a baby given the situation.

Annie married Michael Wm GUTHRIE in 1923 (reg 7666). She died in 1977 (reg 106665).

Minnie married Matthew EWING in 1925 (reg 1566). History repeated when she also lost her husband at age 38... https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16906506

Gladys married Robert George CRAM in 1928. Sadly he also died relatively young,
in 1949:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/134466301
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/134471488/10088231

I think Ann Gordon was Samuel's second wife - marriage after births of Alexander and Elsie..

This is his first marriage - Elspeth as you mentioned above:

GILL
SAMUEL
BISSET
ELSPET
1872
235/ 5
Rathen


Children of Samuel and Elspet(h) were :

Catherine Scott Gill 25/09/1872,
Elsie 21/09/1874
and Alexander as already posted.

I don't see young Ann's birth with any certainty - there are a few possibilities.
She would have been second wife Ann's child.

Elspet's death:

BISSET (also listed as Gill)
ELSPET
27
1880
168/1 1036
St Nicholas


So Samuel's wives were Elspet Bissett and Ann Gordon.
His parents were Samuel Gill and Elizabeth Ogston.

Nice work! :-)

That also explains why Elsie's death reg in 1892 aged 18 shows her parents as Samuel & Elspet (reg 5915).

Now we just have to hope Cindy comes back :-D

By the by Cindy - if you see this in time you can get a full NSW transcription for $18 for the long weekend only
http://nswtranscriptions.com.au/

nudge

nudge

Hi Cherilyn

I have Thomas Davy born 1881(BMD S=Sparrow Davy) Abingdon Berks.

He died in NSW,is he the one in the Index for "Kempsey 1902"?

ElizabethK

No, he's not:

Thomas Davy
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Thomas Davy
Birth Date: 1826
Death Date: 22 Dec 1902
Cemetery: Kempsey West General
Burial or Cremation Place: Kempsey, Kempsey Shire, New South Wales, Australia



Sorry for butting in on your thread, Cherilyn, but noticed this, so thought I might as well save you the bother of looking it up.

Thanks ArgyllGran :-)

Hi ElizabethK (and ArgyllGran :) )

Do you know Thos' parents names by any chance??

Cheers
Cherilyn

Also ruled out the ones who died in 1922 (born in NSW) and the one who died in 1937 (born in the 1850s)- https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/214838278

The one who died in 1934 was born c1881 and appears to be the son of the Thos who died in 1937 - he had brothers Andrew & Herbert, several sisters and mother was Mary- Forbes district (reg 23475)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/183581726?

Obituary - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/183576632

According to his WWI enlistment, he was born in Armidale NSW though.

This looks like the family:

Tom Davy
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Tom Davy
Gender: Male
Age: 9
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1882
Father: Thomas Davy
Mother: Ann A Davy
Birth Place: Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Helen
Residence Place: Wootton, St Helen, Berkshire, England
Sub registration district: Abingdon
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 978
Folio: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Davy 27
Ann A Davy 28
Tom Davy 9
Florence E Davy 7
George H Davy 1
Albert V Davy 1/12




DAVY, ALBERT VICTOR mms SPARROW
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in ABINGDON Volume 02C Page 286

DAVY, FLORENCE ETHEL mms SPARROW
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in ABINGDON Volume 02C Page 290

DAVY, GEORGE HENRY mms SPARROW
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in ABINGDON Volume 02C Page 296 Occasional Copy: A


Another child, who died in infancy:
Birth -
DAVY, CHARLES HARRY mms SPARROW
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in ABINGDON Volume 02C Page 296

Death -

DAVY, CHARLES HARRY 0
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in ABINGDON Volume 02C Page 204

Hi Cherilyn

Tom Davy

He was born 1881 in Abingdon(before parents nuptials)hence the Daly - Sparrow registration.

His father was also Thomas Davy mother Ann Annabelle Sparrow at time of his baptism father is "Pte,1st B'tn Scots Guards"

According to a tree on Ancestry he married an Emily ?

No sources ( :-( though

SPARROW, TOM DAVEY -
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in ABINGTON Volume 02C Page 291

????

Thomas Davy
in the New South Wales, Australia, St. John's Parramatta, Baptisms, 1790-1916
Name: Thomas Davy
Gender: Male
Parish: St. John's Anglican Church Parramatta
Spouse: Emily Davy
Child: Melinda Frances Davy

EDIT:

NO, not this man.
The daughter's baptism was on Aug 18, 1884.

???

Tom Davy

in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Tom Davy
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Boarder
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Sevelle Place
District: North Dock
County: Dublin
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Gowans 67
Helena Benson 30
Alice Warner 11
Mara Benson 9
Thomas Mercer 23
Tom Davy 20 - born England, shop assistant
David Simpson 25

The trees all say he died in Sydney, but don't provide proof, or a date.

Nor do they give a date for his arrival in Australia, nor any information whatsoever about Emily - just her first name.

Do you know he definitely did go to Australia?