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Ok I couldnt contain myself...I just had to look on 1911!!!!

STODDART, ARTHUR WILLIAM HEAD MARRIED M 26 COAL MINER HEWER COUNDON DURHAM
STODDART, MARY ANN WIFE MARRIED 3 F 20 BYERS GREEN DURHAM
STODDART, EMILY DAUGHTER F 2 SPENNYMOOR DURHAM


Living...Overmans Row, Trimdon Grange, Sedgefield, Durham

And....


ATKINSON, WILLIAM F HEAD MARRIED M 27 MINER HEWER HEWER DURHAM HARTLEPOOL
ATKINSON, GERTRUDE WIFE MARRIED 3 F 28 NORFOLK GREAT YARMOUTH
ATKINSON, CHARLES S SON SINGLE M 2 DURHAM DARLINGTON

Living at...11 Dunstan Street, Trimdon Colly, Sedgefield, Durham

Misty x

hi all
mary ann atkinson did he marry gonna look but bettin he did she on marrage cert as well .
sean xx

Hes getting ahead of us now Mistycat,we will need to watch our backs!

And what does it turn up?
THIS.

Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
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ATKINSON Mary Ann Auckland 10a 408
HERDMAN Thoma_ Francis Auckland 10a 408
STODDART Arthur William Auckland 10a 408
WARD Mary Ann Auckland 10a 408

So it looks like Sean wins that round.

And all the little Stoddart/Atkinson births in Sedgefield after 1911,looks like one was born and died before being named.

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Stoddart James R Atkinson Sedgefield 10a 327


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
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Stoddart Male Atkinson Sedgefield 10a 363

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Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Stoddart Eveline Atkinson Sedgefield 10a 333

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Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Stoddart Amelia J Atkinson Sedgefield 10a 295

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Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Stoddart Catherine Atkinson Sedgefield 10a 376

One match for Arthur Stoddart on trees here,so a pm to Heather I think Sean,to see what she knows or an elderly relative of hers maybe,if anything

Arthur 1885 Counden, County Durham, England No Heather

Heather also has Mary Atkinson

Mary 1890 Dunston,Durham,Eng No Heather

Trees on Ancestry have Mary ann Atkinson 1890,but not Arthur that I can see.

One is a private tree so I cant view it,but 2 are public

And on the same trees they have the Boageys,so now you are all signed up for Ancestry Sean,you can send them messages.

Well....how about this...looks like Gertrude could have been a lodger when she married?

The Carr's lived at No 12 in 1901 and 1911!!!

NO house No 11 on original image in 1901

I wonder if Henry Carr managed a Tobacconist shop....( maybe Gertrude worked there)which closed down, as although at the same address, he is a Coal Miner Hewer in 1911

1901
Name: Henry C Carr
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Whitworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Spennymoor St Paul
Town: Spennymoor
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:..........******12 EDWARD STREET*******

Occupation: Tobacconist (manager)........worker


Henry C Carr 50
Mary A Carr 42.....Durham England
Ernest Carr 18.....Spennymoor

Misty x

Oh nooooo

Hes got us at it againnnnn......

I am off to do some gardening while the sun is shining for once here in Wales.
C ya later

Oh Viv, yes looks that way....

I'm trying to cook roast lunch for four people, at 2.30 !!

I'll have a (no doubt skwiffy) look in later

Misty x

hi all
the trees on ancestory did it a while ago bill who still lives in durham has no idear .
also found a relation for gertrude and he knows nothing ,but ill keep looking someone out there knows .
thanxs again you are all good to me im off hunting the name stoddart you gave me on trees see if anyone knows anything .
seanxx

Hi Sean,

Sorry didnt get back to you sooner.Info;from first page, the girls are a lot faster than me.

Had charles nelson and lucy in Sculcoats from old look up. Charles E Nelson 9d 173 Lucy nelson 9d449.Just made note in pad at the time.

lots of stoddards in and around spennymoor.If I can I will look in spenny today see if No; 11 looks as if it was a shop.

By the way was Gertrude Mace related to your mother at all?

TO ALL the girls hellping you ,I wish I was as good at look ups, Imight have gotpast my g/ father.

Hi Sean,
Just got back from Spenny, no 11 or 12 left standing.Faced each other on the corner of street.Asked on gent passing if he knew if a shop stood on the corner, he said it was pulled down in the early 70,s he thinks, to make way for flower beds. No flowers now just grass.

I have some info; on Charles friend John Robert Atkinson born J/A/Squarter, 1908 Sedgefield reg; dist; 10a 113.
All from old look ups .
Hope this helps a little .
Griz

hi griz
thankyou for looking if the houses still there ,we are planning a trip up .
and yes gertrude was my mothers grandmother .
all the people are very helpful on here you need to put your own thread on someone im sure will help you past your grandparents .
sean

griz
one thing you could help me with as you live in the area gertrude died in trimdom colliery i wonder if you know the nearest church grave yard to trimdom just when we visit gonna see if we can find here stone and if william is with here .
sean

Sean, St;Pauls on Commercial St.Trimdon Colliery.Its the high street.


Griz.

gutted i am
i really thought the w f atkinson was the one ,
informant-E Atkinson widow of deceased ,well looks like this is going to cost some .
seanxx

Deaths are the most expensive ones going.

Unless you have an unusual surname to look for of course.
Just thank your lucky stars its not Smith or Jones your looking for.

Keep at it lad,you will win through in the end.

Sean, how dissapointing for you but as Viv say's...keep going, you have come to far to stop now...

Ha...common surnames...I have 14 birth certs, looking for my grandfather and I still cant find the b****y man!!

Chin Up

Misty x

hi all
no luck yet with death for william francis,but i just wanted to run something by you all,see what you think hope you dont mind .
i have found a birth for a peggi i atkinson mother mace 1920 in suffork ,ive looked for a marraige for a mace and atkinson in the area cant find one but have found a few marraiges for peggi around 1940 .in suffork area.
is it poss for gertrude to have gone back down south to have a baby i know she died in 1929 in durham but it still may be poss after gertrudes death peggi could have been brought up by other family members in suffork ,anyway what im trying to say is do you think it could be her and worth ordering the cert xxxx would u have a look see what you think
hope you all well x sean

Wha'? Wha' happen? Where am I??
;)

The birth is actually in West Ham, which is really an Essex bit of London. Ancestry's definitions of where things are tend to be somewhat loony.

I'd say go for it. What's another 7 pounds? It's quite possible it was a Mr. Atkinson who married a Ms. Mace who had been previously married, or a couple who weren't married, or some such, but you may as well find out!

The name is actually Peggy I Atkinson. Make sure you get all the spellings etc right when you order!

She is most likely the one who married in 1940 in Suffolk -- CROYDON, I meant Croydon, Sean put Suffolk on my brain. Wait until you get the birth cert, and then think about that.