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FRANK BOAGEY


Marriages Sep 1907
ATKINSON Frank Auckland 10a 477
MACE Gertrude Auckland 10a 477

married 21st sept 1907

frank atkinson, 24yrs, bachelor. coal miner
11 edward street spennymoor
father: john atkinson, deceased, coal miner

Marriages Sep 1870
ATKINSON John Auckland 10a 304
BROWELL Elizabeth Auckland 10a 304

Marriages Mar 1883
BAYES Esther Hartlepool 10a 152
BOAGEY Hunter Hartlepool 10a 152

Marriages Dec 1888
ATKINSON John Auckland 10a 296
BOAGEY Esther Auckland 10a 296

Births Jun 1884
Boagey William Francis Hartlepool 10a 156

1891

Name: Frank Atkinson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary [?? - never sorted this one, so far]
Where born: Byers Green, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Byers Green
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green
Town: Byers Green
County/Island: Durham

John Atkinson 44
Mary Atkinson 30
Richard Atkinson 19
Margaret Atkinson 18
John Atkinson 11
William Atkinson 7
Frank Atkinson 7
Frances Atkinson 9
Elizabeth A Atkinson 3
Mary A Atkinson 11/12 [possibly witness at marriage]

1901

Name: William Frank Boagy
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John...1847
Mother's Name: Esther....1865
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Byers Green
Town: Byers Green
County/Island: Durham

Occupation:....... Coal Miners Putter ?
Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland

John Atkinson 54......Stone Man (Below)?
Esther Atkinson 36
Margaret Atkinson 28
John Atkinson 21
Francis Atkinson 19
William Atkinson 16
William Frank Boagy 16
Elizabeth Ann Atkinson 12
Mary Ann Atkinson 10
Esther Atkinson 2
Jane Browell Atkinson 3 Mo


Query: what became of the trail of this marriage?

Marriages Sep 1904
? Boagey William Francis Auckland 10a 384
Bradley Arthur Auckland 10a 384
? Gardiner Martha Auckland 10a 384
Layton Ruth Ann Auckland 10a 384

This seems to be the possible site of a daughter named Lucy - a previous marriage.


One more to go.

CHARLES EDWARD NELSON ATKINSON born BOAGEY

Marriages Sep 1907
ATKINSON Frank Auckland 10a 477
MACE Gertrude Auckland 10a 477

Births Dec 1908
Boagey Charles Edward N Durham 10a 418


Unknown why he was registered as Boagey when his father had used surname Atkinson to marry Gertrude Mace.


Married as Atkinson to Winifred Wells, Sheffield, 1930.


Not a huge showing for all these pages - but I think those are the important, tested and proved facts.

Now please post anything significant that's been left out!

re that 1904 marriage - it seems that Martha Gardiner married Arthur Bradley.

1911

BRADLEY MARTHA 1884 27 Lanchester Durham
BRADLEY ARTHUR 1879 32 Lanchester Durham

Which leaves Ruth Layton as having married that Frank Boagey, whoever he was.

hi all what about this death
atkinson william f soldier private
no 13607
death 9/8/1915 age 32
if this is him gertrude could have married again and had another child ie lucy
seanxxx

No Surname Rank Service Number Date Of Death Age Regiment/Service Nationality Grave/Memorial Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name
1 ATKINSON, WILLIAM F. Private 13607 09/08/1915 32 East Yorkshire Regiment United Kingdom Panel 51 to 54. HELLES MEMORIAL

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Name: ATKINSON, WILLIAM F.
Initials: W F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: "C" Coy. 6th Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 09/08/1915
Service No: 13607
Additional information: Son of Thomas and Martha Ann Atkinson, of 24, Devon St., Gipsyville, Hull.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 51 to 54.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

Well Sean, here are the full details for that death:

http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=698279

Name: ATKINSON, WILLIAM F.
Initials: W F
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: "C" Coy. 6th Bn.
Age: 32
Date of Death: 09/08/1915
Service No: 13607
>> Additional information: Son of Thomas and Martha Ann Atkinson, of 24, Devon St., Gipsyville, Hull.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 51 to 54.
Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL


Seems pretty unlikely -- in particular, the man's wife would be named as next of kin if he were married, unless he were estranged, I suppose.

Births Sep 1883
Atkinson William Fewlass Hull 9d 248


Why do we keep cluttering up the thread with people who plainly aren't relevant????


Viv ... you edited ... !

poss marr for gertrude
chapman 1916
carberry 1919
sean

There are 4 Lucy-s with mother Mace born 1911 onward:

Births Mar 1915
Rodgers Lucy A Mace Holbeach 7a 732
Births Mar 1916
Sellars Lucy Mace Doncaster 9c 1596
Births Mar 1919
Dunn Lucy M Mace Cheadle 6b 423
Births Mar 1921
PRENTICE Lucy M Mace Holbeach 7a 725

Do any of them look likely?

Regardless of whether the mother was married before, her birth surname should be shown on the birth record. So Mace is what I searched for.

Sean, you can do FreeBMD. Rather than just ask the questions, do the searches!

Look for a Rodgers-Mace marriage 1900-1925, a Sellars-Mace marriage, etc.

If you find the marriage, was the Mace a Gertrude? (If it should turn out that the Atkinson-Mace marriage was bigamous on his part, she might have married as a Mace.)

One for free: Rodgers-Mace was in 1904, and no Gertrude.

sorry thought i was on to something never mind
seanx

Sean.

"poss marr for gertrude"


"chapman 1916" - this was to Gertrude Mace, in Smallburgh, Norfolk.
(Do feel free to give details so we don't have to go looking them up, eh?)

Unless the Mace-Atkinson marriage was bigamous and Gertrude remarried as Mace, this would not be her.

Did you search for Chapman-Mace births?
There are Chapman-Mace births in Smallburgh in 1917 and 1920. Robert and Margaret.

Did you search for a Gertrude Mace in 1911 in Smallburgh to see whether there was one who was probably the one who married Chapman?

There's this one:

MACE GERTRUDE HORACE F 1899 12 Smallburgh Norfolk

Births Sep 1898
Mace Gertrude Florence Smallburgh 4b 52

I'd say.


"carberry 1919" - this was to Gertrude Atkinson, in Hartlepool.

Did you search for Carberry-Mace births? Carberry-Atkinson births?
There are Carberry-Atkinson births in Hartlepool 1920-1926.
Your Gertrude's birth surname was Mace.
So I think not, eh?

ok im going to have a good old look and see what i can find
i really do appriciate all you have done for me all of you
seanxxxxxxxxxxxx

hi all
long time but just wanted to let you all know i have gertrudes death cert .
gertrude atkinson 1929 sedgefield and william francis atkinson was pres at the death .
im going to try to find his death just wanted a little adivce what to look for ,do you think i need to look for w f atkinson as he is under that name in 1929 .on gertrudes death .cert
i hope you can all recall this story was very long and a few months ago .
seanxxx

Seems like the first line of attack, Sean! Unfortunately, Ancestry hasn't done deaths 1916-1984 yet -- but it probably shouldn't be long until it does. You might want to hold off until you can do the automated searching. ;)

Oh nooooo.

I think I shall now cancel my sub to Gr.

Only joking Sean,nice to see you are still with us

Good advice from Janey as always,well most of the time.

Hello Sean

Nice to see your still "at it"....how could we ever forget the story !! ;)

Gosh, your going to have quite a task...if you decide to trawl through year by year, quater by quater...I do think Janey has the right idea..

At the risk of being "hung" (by the others) did you ever find anything about Lucy/Lou?

Misty x

Dont know about just hung Mistycat....
drawn and quartered springs to mind as well.

I still have nightmares about it!!

Ohhhhh come on Viv...You know how we enjoy a good old hunt !!!

What else would we do on nights we "cant" sleep ;)))


Misty x

hi all
thats how i found gertrude by going through year by year.
im hoping if i find williams death on his cert lucy may have reg the death long shot but what other clue do i have or it may give me another relative to look into .
im not ready to give up yet and to be honest im really enjoying looking .
i really just wanted your advice on if william francis atkinson is prob the best name to go for as hes down on gertrudes death cert as that name in 1929 .
sean x

Morning Sean

I would look for William F Atkinson but take a note of any William/ W F Atkinson's in the area you are looking....That way you dont have to search the whole lot again if you dont find a William F Atkinson...

Good Luck

Misty x

thanx misty
ill let you all know when i find anything ,and if you all dont mind ill run it by you all before i order any cert as there are a hell of a lot of william on there .