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18 Dec 2008 21:35 |
Pat
I know nothing of James yet but what we are doing is building a picture.Its a bit like being a detective is lookups!!You piece all the puzzle together and then if you are lucky 1 piece falls into place.Why did you think Bridget was the mother?Is this family hand down info?
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18 Dec 2008 21:55 |
Pat
You are not going to believe this another possible cousin marriage!
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Margaret Durkin Name: Margaret Durkin Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bradford County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9b Page: 336 (click to see others on page)
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record John Durkin 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire View Record Margaret Durkin 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire View Record Joseph Parker 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire View Record Ada Procter 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
I think she married John Durkin
1891 England Census about Margaret Durkin Name: Margaret Durkin Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hunslet Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hunslet Sub registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Durkin 26 Margaret Durkin 26 Annie Durkin 5
1891 England Census about Margaret Durkin Name: Margaret Durkin Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hunslet Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hunslet Sub registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Durkin 26 Margaret Durkin 26 Annie Durkin 5
1891 England Census about Annie Durkin Name: Annie Durkin Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Female Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hunslet Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hunslet Sub registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Durkin 26 Margaret Durkin 26 Annie Durkin 5 John a Sheet Repairer Railway
Address 25 Cramptons could be buildings the 2nd word?
Here is the 1901
1901 England Census about John Durkin Name: John Durkin Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bowling ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age John Durkin 36 Margaret Durkin 36 John Durkin 9
1901 England Census about Margaret Durkin Name: Margaret Durkin Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bowling ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age John Durkin 36 Margaret Durkin 36 John Durkin 9
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18 Dec 2008 21:56 |
Michelle,
When I first started this in early October I got stuck looking for my grandmothers info so I put a thread on and a lady called Dee helped me out. I couldn't understand when I got the grandmothers birth cert. and saw Durkin as a maiden name of her mother - dumbo!! and Dee (from Genes) found Ann Durkin, 56 Duncan St. for me and told me she was the one I was looking for, and obviously informed me of the close relationship. Because things were getting complicated for me I put all the paperwork away and thought I'd concentrated on my grandfather's side. The unfortunate thing was to start with i was following a wrong path on the grandfather's side - got the wrong birth certificate when I spoke with Dee. But hopefully I'm learning all the time.
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18 Dec 2008 21:57 |
Pat
1901 Continued...
1901 England Census about John Durkin Name: John Durkin Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bowling ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age John Durkin 36 Margaret Durkin 36 John Durkin 9
John a Sheetmaker Margaret a Mill Hand
Address 56 Bolling Street
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***Michelle***
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18 Dec 2008 22:07 |
Pat
Well that looks like the 2 siblings found.We are all learning Pat.This is my 3rd thread.My 1st had 7200 threads on it the 2nd around 2500 and this is my 3rd and im still learning.I think you are doing great and we are gathering info together and trying to piece it all together.
Michelle : )
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18 Dec 2008 22:08 |
Michelle,
I'm gobsmacked!! I've been having a job getting my brain round all the James & Annies - now to have to sort the Margarets & Johns out - I'll end up with a nervous breakdown eh eh. I daren't ask which cousins!!
I'm going to have to get this tree started because the names are all running into each other, might be easier to see it in print as a picture.
Pat
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18 Dec 2008 22:37 |
Pat
I know its funny the same names all the time!!Im a little confused too.But it does look like Margaret from the 1881 on the 1891 and 1901 i found and there was a John Durkin on the marriage record and i thought....got to be the 1!!!Might be an idea to get the marriage cert for Mary Ellen at some point to check father's name and occupation.I couldn't see Bridget on the 1871 to check for who her husband was and we may be barking up a wrong tree!!Their are rather alot of Durkin's in Bradford area arent there!
Michelle
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18 Dec 2008 23:03 |
Michelle,
Bridget's husband was John - A Tailor - deceased on son James' marr. cert. in 1882, and a Margaret Durkin witnessed the marriage.. These girls are all James's siblings aren't they? don't scare me now!!
I couldn't find Bridget on 1871 census as either widowed or married. But did only look for Bradford. Maybe worth a look a bit wider eh!
Pat
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18 Dec 2008 23:21 |
Pat
Sorry to scare you!I just think its important to follow things up with certs when you can to be 100%.Well looks like we have the siblings and their marriages.No sight on the 1871 makes you wonder if they were visiting Ireland?Did know father was John but wondered if you should confirm with certs? What about asking the helpful Bradford office to see who registered this death
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about John Durkin Name: John Durkin Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 37 District: Bradford County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Volume: 9b Page: 128 (click to see others on page)
Like you already mentioned is 1 in 1882 also...could be poss?
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19 Dec 2008 11:04 |
Hi Michelle,
Have just phoned Bradford for John Durkin's death cert 1875 and Mary Ellen's marr. cert. I gave all the info I had on each of them, so hopefully, If I don't receive a phone call in the next couple of hours we may have some confirmation on route!!
Pat
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19 Dec 2008 13:31 |
Pat
Im crossing fingers!!!It is a tricky 1 these Durkins at there were quite a few of them in the area all with same 1st names!!Lets hope we have the right 1's this time. Let me know if you hear anything.
Michelle
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19 Dec 2008 15:11 |
Hi Michelle,
Bradford records just phoned me the marriage cert seems ok - got down father as a Tailor, but death certificate is John Durkin - Iron Moulder - Died in the workhouse. The lady there said if he was in the workhouse then the rest of the family probably would be. That at least tells us it woiuld seem to be the right family
Pat
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***Michelle***
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19 Dec 2008 16:08 |
Pat
Marriage cert sounds the right 1 good.So death not the right 1?unless he changed profession?Oh what alot these Durkins are!Might be interesting to see who the witnesses are on the marriage cert you never know it may give more clues!!!Without looking back on my thread wasn't the marriage after 1882?if it was be interesting to see if John if marked as deceased on that. On Bridgets record her sister was on listed as County Mays i should imagine this should have read County Mayo birthplace be really good if we could narrow the place in Ireland they were from.
Michelle
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19 Dec 2008 16:35 |
Michelle,
Yes the marriage was 1891. Have spent best part of the afternoon looking for John in the 1881 & 1871 census, but not had much luck, found a John & Bridget in Wigan in 1871, but they were a bit too young plus no kids. Am going to have another trawl at the deaths for John, last child born 1868 (we think) so I suppose 14 years isn't too long to check, I'll also widen the field to Yorkshire as opposed to Bradford only, never know he may have had to take work away from the family, that's why he can't be found. Although would be a lot easier if he died in 1869 wouldn't it.
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20 Dec 2008 18:19 |
hi michelle could you please do me a look up .i have a lily harper born about 1880 .barnsley yorks seem to think she may have married someone called hughes my mother in law know nothing about this side of her family.could you please help with any information and thank you for your kindness, have a wonderful christmas and a healthy new year.
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20 Dec 2008 20:04 |
Hi Michelle
Wondered if you have a look on the 1851 and 1861 census for me?
I'm looking for JOSHUA ASHBY born 1847c in Derbyshire (either Chapel-en-le-Frith or Bugsworth).
Looking to find out who is parents and siblings were.
Thanks for your help.
Dawn
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21 Dec 2008 00:17 |
Hi Michelle,
Wonder if you can help with another Tarbox! I've been to see my mum today and updated her on my progress, and she informed me that I'm missing one of her aunts!
Her Grandad was Frederick Tarbox, married to Mary (don't know the last name), and I already have the following children from the 1901 Census:
Christine Ernest (my grandad) Frederick George Mary Reginald Walter T (I think this has been mis-transcribed on the GR database as Walker S but I know otherwise)
Mum says there was another sibling called Nancy, but I haven't been able to find her on the Free BMD indexes. She could have been born in (St) Pancras or possibly Berkhampstead if she is older than Frederick.
She married a William J Beal, who is a witness on my grandparent's Wedding Certificate.
Finally, I wouldn't be overly suprised if her name wasn't really Nancy - they were a funny lot on my mum's side - Mary was always known as "Nin". Mum didn't know her real name, I only tied Nin to Mary because I found her marriage records that show she married a William Hughes and mum remembers that was her Uncle.
Thanks, Ed
PS - mum sends her thanks too!
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***Michelle***
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21 Dec 2008 01:54 |
Shemp
Hi there been out tonight and thought id quickly get a couple done before bed beckons me!
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record Lily Harper 1909 Barnsley Yorkshire - West Riding View Record Arthur Hughes 1909 Barnsley Yorkshire - West Riding
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Lily Harper Name: Lily Harper Year of Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Barnsley County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 449 (click to see others on page) Using mother's maiden name for search poss child for the couple?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Annie Hughes Name: Annie Hughes Year of Registration: 1917 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's Maiden Name: Harper District: Barnsley County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 459 (click to see others on page)
Twin??or another poss
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Fred Hughes Name: Fred Hughes Year of Registration: 1917 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's Maiden Name: Harper District: Barnsley County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 459 (click to see others on page)
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about John Hughes Name: John Hughes Year of Registration: 1916 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Harper District: Barnsley County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 531 (click to see others on page) England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Kathleen Hughes Name: Kathleen Hughes Year of Registration: 1913 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's Maiden Name: Harper District: Barnsley County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 619 (click to see others on page)
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21 Dec 2008 02:01 |
Dawn
1861
1861 England Census about Joseph Ashby Name: Joseph Ashby Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
1861 England Census about Ann Ashby Name: Ann Ashby Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
1861 England Census about William Ashby Name: William Ashby Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14 1861 England Census about Joseph Ashby Name: Joseph Ashby Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
1861 England Census about Margaret Ashby Name: Margaret Ashby Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
1861 England Census about Enoch Ashby Name: Enoch Ashby Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
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21 Dec 2008 02:09 |
Dawn
1861 Continued....
1861 England Census about Thomas Ashby Name: Thomas Ashby Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
1861 England Census about Joshua Ashby Name: Joshua Ashby Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Ashby 62 Ann Ashby 53 William Ashby 33 Joseph Ashby 26 Margaret Ashby 23 Enoch Ashby 17 Thomas Ashby 15 Joshua Ashby 14
Joshua Lime Labourer William a Lime Picker Joseph a Quarryman Enoch a Lime Maker Thomas a Quarry Boy Joshua Lime Picker
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