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10 Feb 2012 14:17 |
JOANNA There is a Martin Mallard who buried a daughter Hannah 21/4/1712 in Bladon. So he is Martin Mallard senior. he is buried 30/9/1732 Bladon as Martin Mallard Senior.
He may have been married to a Sarah Maylard buried 10/1/1748 New style year or a Mary buried 9/3/1748 New style year. these two are only mentioned as burials no widow or wife
There is no Martin Maylord or similar baptised in 1690 Bladon, nor is there a marriage between a Martin Maylard and a Jane or Joanna Bartlett in Bladon nor in Oxfordshire.
So when Martin Mallard senior moved to Bladon with his daughter Hannah who was buried 21/4/1712 Bladon, he may well have brought other children with him who had been baptised in another parish. One of which could have been Martin Maylard married to Jane or Joanna Bartlett who probably was buried as Widow Maylord 15/3/1746 Bladon, as her husband Martin Maylard had been buried 7/8/1737 Bladon.
Martin and Joan/Joanna Maylard had William baptised 12/4/1722 Bladon Martin Baptised 21/6/1728 Bladon. as we have buried his father in 1737 Bladon we cannot also bury him in the same year, so it leaves him alive to marry Elizabeth Norris 8/5/1747 Oxford St Michael by License he of Hensington she of New Woodstock
Martin Maylard and Elizabeth nee Norris baptised Martin Maylard 14/4/1754 Bladon. he was born 5/3/1754 Bladon.
I hope this helps.
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10 Feb 2012 14:38 |
Good morning Margaret,
Thank you very much indeed!! This is wonderful information and helps me to untangle my Maylard web.
If I could ask for one more look-up, I'd be grateful for the baptismal information for George Love born about 1754 in Oxford.
Many thanks for your kindness. Joanna
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14 Feb 2012 08:32 |
JOANNA private email
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17 Feb 2012 07:15 |
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Margaret
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22 Feb 2012 12:10 |
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Michael
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23 Feb 2012 19:16 |
Hi Margaret, You helped me enormously in the past with information about Oxfordshire people. I would be most interested in you would help fill in or flesh out anything on these people:
Thomas GARDNER married Ann PRESTER 22aug1784 at Headington, Oxon.
William GARDNER was born 1789 at Headington; possibly in 1841 he was at Barton, Headington, with sister or wife Mary (census). Thomas GARDNER was born 23jan1800 and chr 26jan1800 at Headington (IGI). Thomas married Jane ROCKELL 12may1823 at Headington. Jane Gardner (1808) d. 3rd qtr 1883 or Jane Gardener (1801) d. 4th qtr 1884 at Headington (bmd).
Thomas GARDNER was chr 1may1834 at Headington. Thomas (ag. lab.) married (1) Emma CRAWFORD 10feb1861 at Headington; Emma was chr 15apr1838 at Headington, dau of James Crawford and Hannah (IGI). James Crawford marr Hannah Jacobs 25dec1832 at Headington (IGI). Emma Gardner d. probably 1887 at Elsfield. Thomas GARDNER marr (2) Eliza BIRCH (1856 Grafton, Shropshire) 2nd qtr 1895 at Thame.
Robert GARDNER was chr 8apr1838 at Barton. Robert Gardner was b. 2nd qtr 1838, Headington (bmd). Robert (ag. lab. and carter) married Harriet PURDY (b. 1837 Stanton St. John, Forest Hill, Oxon). They probably marr 1862 at Headington, though not found on bmd. Kind regards, Michael Avery
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24 Feb 2012 09:28 |
Hi Margaret
I am currently looking for any information on a Thomas Talboys born 1799 in oxford(?), Oxfordshire. By 1851 census he was in Thames Street, North Hinksey, Abingdon District. His wife Ann was born 1819 and I was wondering if she was his second wife as having looked on a certain other website I think I found them on the 1841 census at Grandpont Berks, St Aldate, Berkshire, England. Thomas aged 42, Anne aged 22 and there is a David aged 16.
Perhaps David was from a previous marriage??
Also are you able to find who the Ann was?? It has been suggested she might be Ann Slater, but if this is the marriage details for Thomas (Sep 1839):
Talboys Thomas Oxford 16 141
BMD does list a:
LYNE Ann Oxford 16 141
If I look up Ann Slater in the same qtr I do find:
Slater Anne Oxford 16 1_1
so that could fit. One more supporting point is that in the 1851 census they have a son Thomas (b1841). BMD lists a birth in Oxford Jun1840 for Thomas Alphonso Talboys. in the 1841 census there is a Thomas Talboys listed with a John and Susannah Slater both born 1791 Oxford.
So any information on Thomas Talboys b1799, parents or siblings would be very useful. Any help on his marriage/marriages would also be appreciated and if Ann Slater is correct and John and Susannah are her parents any information going further back on them would be of great help.
Sorry if I am asking a lot in one go and no hurry.
Thanks for your offer to help!
Martyn
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Margaret
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24 Feb 2012 11:54 |
MICHAEL Thomas Gardiner (parish register) married Ann Prester 22/8/1784 in Headington witnesses Richard King, John Samson by Banns I wonder as there are only two Presters on the marriage disc for Oxfordshire if perhaps Ann Prester is really Ann Plester or sometimes known as Plaister. One of the two Presters on the marriage disc Samuel, when I looked up the marriage on the parish register turned out to be Plester. But sadly he did not have children in the parish where he had married. Thomas Gardiner and Ann had the following children baptised in Headington I will give the surnames they were baptised with
Elizabeth Gardiner 8/10/1786 mother Preston. Sarah Gardiner 14/10/1787,,,, no burial for her but there is the following Sarah Gardiner 14/10/1789 mother Prester as is the one above George Gardener 3/9/1790 Prester and Gardener John Gardner 10/11/1793 Prester and Gardner Mary Anne 4/12/1796 born 30/11/1796 Gardiner Thomas 26/1/1800 Gardner born 23/1/1800
There was an infant Ann buried 31/10/1786 Headington also an infant John Buried 4/8/1785 Headington..
Mary Anne 4/12/1796 married George Cox Headington he was a widower 9/8/1841
Thomas Gardner 23/1/1800 Headington married Jane Rockell 12/5/1823 she was buried in Headington aged 84 yrs from the Oxford Union.17/12/1885 Thomas 1800 was buried 2/3/1859 aged 62 yrs in Headington they had the following children baptised in Headington Helen Elizabeth 10/7/1823 William 8/5/1825 married Elizabeth Ballinger Witney 1850
Charles 26/12/1826 married Headington Eliza Jones 2/3/1851 daughter of Robert Jones, witnesses John Jones, Rebecca Jones. they had a daughter Anne baptised 25/12/1852 Headington of Barton
Jonathan 9/11/1828 Sarah 22/5/1831 Alice 13/7/1833 Alice 21/8/1836 Robert 8/4/1838 Lucy 19/7/1840 FAnny 4/6/1843 Mary Jane 10/5/1846 missed off Thomas baptised 1/3/1834
GEORGE GARDNER 3/9/1790 Headington was buried 16/12/1869 aged 81 yrs Headington he married Fanny Owens 31/10/1814 Oxford St Clements Fanny was buried 24/8/1870 aged 77 yrs from Oxford, probably meaning the Oxford Union Workhouse. George and Fanny baptised the following children in Headington Charlotte 1/11/1816 Ann 19/9/1819 who married Thomas Price 20/6/1842 Headington son of Thomas price
Mary 28/3/1821 who had a daughter Elizabeth baptised 8/4/1849 a single woman from Sandhill. I think this is correct.
William 8/1/1827 who married Hannah Cooper full age daughter of George Cooper witnesses John Phillips, Susanna Jacob 4/9/1848 Headington
Fanny 13/5/1833
there is a John Gardner baptised 25/1/1848 son of George and Ann, but he may be misleading.
Thats as far as I have gotten with Thomas Gardner married to Ann Prester.
I can find nothing on William Gardner born c 1789 Headington, not on the parish register baptisms in Headington.
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Margaret
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28 Feb 2012 13:25 |
MARTYN I looked at the marriage entry for Thomas Talboys and there is only one Ann to choose from. 1839 3rd quarter vol 16 page 141, but on various sites, it seems that people have chosen an Ann Slater, there is not an Ann Slater to choose from on 3 q vol 16, page 141 1839 only a Sarah Slater. The only way this could tie up is if Ann Lyne is a widow, and previously Ann Slater. My advice is buy the certificate, there is a PAF file on line which says it has bought the certificate, and shows Ann Slater as the wife of Thomas Talboys. Still I would fork out for the certificate to make sure myself. Sadly the parish registers for 1839 seem to be in a mess so I cannot help you for the South Hinksey marriage entry for 1839. Here is what I have found out
Thomas Talboys was born c 1799 in Unknown place, but says it was in Oxfordshire himself on census. he married 5/1/1820 in St Aldate Oxford City to Sarah Melville.
The Melvilles seem to be a Boatman family, which ties up with Thomas Talboys being a boatman at the time.
Thomas Talboys wife Sarah nee Melville was buried 18/4/1839 aged 53 yrs and buried in St Aldate Oxford City. They had baptised in St Aldate Thomas Melville Talboys 25/7/1822 David Talboys 10/4/1825
David Talboys 1825 married a Caroline and they had Isabella Ann baptised 24/6/1848 St Aldates,Caroline Elizabeth baptised 2/6/1850. probably more, but I stopped here.
Thomas Talboys married for a second time in 1839 to either Ann Lynne, or Ann Slater, Buy the certificate....
Thomas Talboys and Ann had the following children baptised in St Aldate Thomas Alphonso 2/8/1840 Richard 10/1/1844 no mention of Adolphus until he marries Sarah Louise Taylor 3/8/1863 South Hinksey, and when his relict Sarah Louise Talboys proves his will 19/12/1918 she is living 127 Bullingdon Road Oxford he left £2308.18s.6d. Richard Adolphus Talboys died 26/9/1918 127 Bullingdon Road Oxford.
Ann Ophelia 10/1/1844 St Aldate. same day as Richard. above. Ann Ophelia had an illegitimate daughter.. Rose Talboys baptised 17/10/1869 in Soyuth Hinksey. her father was Richard Price a Post Office Clerk.
From the census Lydia c 1846, Alice c 1848, Henry c 1851, Rachel c 1853, William c 1855, Benjamin c 1858
Sarah Louis Talboys, died 17/4/1931 her will was proved 6/7/1931 by Richard Adolphus Talboys, her son?? she was living at 127 Bullingdon Road, Oxford in the sum of £175.1s.6d.
Richard Adolphus Talboys son as above,lived at 2 Folly Bridge oxford and died 27/10/1932, probate granted to Florence Talboys and Reginald Adolphus Talboys a waterman, £2005.18.1d. resworn at £2052.11s.5d.
Thomas Talboys 1799 his will was proved in the sum of £260. 11s.6d. by his relict Ann Talboys.
Some mention is made of the parentage of Thomas Talboys being from Dursley in Glos. There is a baptism in Dursley which could be him on the Family Search site. Also there is a Rachel Talboys having an illegitimate son thomas in Dursley, and your Thomas does have a daughter Rachel, also there is a Benjamin Talboys regularly imprisoned in Gloucester for larceny, and your Thomas has a Benjamin, but right at the end, so probably not too proud of the other Benjamin. You can search the Dursley parish registers at FAmily Search new site. Sorry not been much help, but you really do need the marriage certificate.
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28 Feb 2012 19:15 |
Hi Margaret
That is alot of work you put in for me and I really appreciate it. I will take some time to absorb what you say and also send away for the marriage cert. If you don't mind I may have more questions on other lines of family as a lot originate in the Oxford area. I'll research some more and perhaps come back to you for more help if I get stuck!
Many, Many Thanks
Martyn
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Michael
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2 Mar 2012 19:20 |
Hi Margaret, Again you have done a marvellous job of clarifying and adding so much information to the little that I had on the Gardner family. Many, many thanks for the excellent work! Kind regards, Michael
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2 Mar 2012 21:10 |
Hi Margaret,
I do not know if you can help but I am keeping everything crossed.
I am having a nightmare finding my Porter family I have a Henry Porter born c1846 it says Oxon ChippingNorton on census I do not know who is parent's are but would you beable to tell me if there are many Henry Porters born in that area. I am not sure if he married in Oxfordshire but his wife was either Sarah or Elizabeth it keeps changing I have not found them on 1871 census or before that. He had moved to London by 1881
Any help would be much appreciated Kind regards Costa
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Margaret
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6 Mar 2012 09:01 |
COSTA Are you following Henry Porter on the 1881 census married to Sarah with son Henry aged 9 yrs born Paddington? Henry was a factoryman.
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costa
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6 Mar 2012 12:40 |
Hi Margaret
Yes that is him I have also sent a pm I will be on later I have a hospital appointment.
Kind regards Costa
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Margaret
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6 Mar 2012 17:12 |
COSTA 1881 census Henry Porter 35 yrs, factoryman born Chipping Norton Sarah wife 37 yrs son Henry 9 yrs born Paddington
1871 St John Paddington
Henry Porter 26 yrs born Oxfordshire wife Sarah A. 26 yrs born Marylebone daughter Francesca 1 year born Bayswater.
Henry Porter married 31/5/1866 Paddington Holy Trinity he 23 yrs bachelor Butcher. of 11 Inverness Terrace Sarah Amelia Peters 21yrs spinster of 59 Pruel or similar Street both sign register. Henry son of Richard Porter a Butcher Sarah daughter of William Peters deceased a Wheelwright. witnesses Willliam Peters, Frances Margaret Peters. by Banns
All Saints Paddington Frances Amelia Porter born July 1869 baptised 19/9/1869 daughter of Henry and Sarah Amelia Porter he a Butcher
St Mary Paddington Henry William Porter born 30/3/1873 baptised 2/11/1873 son of Henry and Sarah Amelia Porter he a Butcher.
Henry Porter son of Richard and Mary Porter baptised Chipping Norton 12/1/1845 Richard Porter a Publican.
You will find a tree on Ancestry with the above people on it, where Mary wife of Richard Porter married in 1842 Cheltenham she was Mary Ann Hillman.
Mary Ann Porter was buried 18/3/1878 aged 55 yrs in Chipping Norton.
There is a Memorial Inscription which reads
Sacred to the memory of Mary Ann, wife of Richard Porter junior, who died 14/3/1878 aged 53 yrs Also of Ann wife of Richard Porter who died 9/3/1839 aged 44 yrs
I think this gives you. Richard Porter and wife Mary Ann Hillman married 1842 Cheltenham
and Richard Porter senior married to an Ann died 9/3/1839 aged 44 yrs the mother of the above Richard Porter junior...
Please write this out, and it will make more sense, I cannot find the marriage in Cheltenham for Richard Porter and Mary Ann Hillman on Latter Day Saints, perhaps you will have more. Luck..... Margaret
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6 Mar 2012 22:11 |
Hi Margaret,
WOW Thank you so much for this info I can not beleive it.
Your a star
with kinds regards Costa
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7 Mar 2012 08:32 |
COSTA bit more 1881 Census Richard Porter unemployed Butcher aged 66 yrs born Chipping Norton Son Aubrey a Plumber and Glazier aged 20 yrs born Chipping Norton
Baptism in Chipping Norton Aubrey son of Richard and Mary Ann, father a gardener, 8/7/1860 godparents, Thomas Smith, father, Elizabeth Porter.
1851 Census Richard Porter aged 32 yrs born Chipping Norton a Butcher wife Mary Ann aged 27 yrs born Middlesex Sarah Ann aged 7 yrs born Burford...married Philip George Holloway 20/1/1873 Burford her father Richard Porter was a witness , and also a Butcher. children continued Henry aged 6 yrs born Chipping Norton John aged 4 yrs born Burford baptised. Burford..27/8/1847 son of Richard and Mary Ann Porter he a Butcher Emma aged 1 yrs born Chipping Norton. Hope this helps.
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7 Mar 2012 09:11 |
Hello Margaret
Does the Marriage Index have any Matthew BLANDs marrying between about 1820 and 1839 ?
They were travellers so could be anywhere I do realize they may not have married but give Oxfordshire as their birth place so worth a try :-)
Thanks Elizabeth
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Margaret
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7 Mar 2012 15:16 |
ELIZABETHK Sorry No Matthew Bland entries, but more of different christian names if you want them.
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7 Mar 2012 19:36 |
Hi Margaret,
Thanks once again for all your help now I have to find the birth of Aubrey son of Henry and Elizabeth, as this one was born 1881, I beleive he was Aubrey Henry Porter as he changed from Henry on his first marriage to Aubrey Henry after it says he was born Soho London there is a record but this says female I got in touch with the church but never got a reply.I will keep looking for that.
Thank you so much again for all your help it is much appreciated. Kindest regards Costa
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