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Joseph Houghton..born 1824 Warrington

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Lambert

Lambert Report 25 Jan 2011 12:27

Searching for info on above ancestor, i.e. death and burial location, last official noting being 1881 census, and living in Cockhedge Lane Warrington, his wife was Jane Houghton (nee Lathom) 1824 - 1882, she is buried in Manchester Road Cemetery Warrington, his father was a Samuel Houghton (Warrington) and Joseph and Jane were married at St Elphin's Church, Warrington.

Thank you! B.Battersby

Gee

Gee Report 25 Jan 2011 12:38

Looks like he may have remarried


Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Daly Margaret Wigan 8c 38
Houghton Joseph Wigan 8c 38





1891 England Census
about Joseph Houghton Name: Joseph Houghton
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margeret Houghton
Gender: Male
Where born: Orrell, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Ince
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Houghton 65 SHOP KEEPER
Margeret Houghton 60




Gee

Gee Report 25 Jan 2011 12:41

Possible death



Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Houghton Joseph 72 Wigan 8c 29

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Jan 2011 12:51

venue for above found marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1882

HOUGHTON Joseph - DALY Margaret
Christ Church,Ince Wigan & Leigh

Lambert

Lambert Report 26 Jan 2011 15:06

Thank you all for help to date!
It would appear that my wife and I don't seem to be doing very well with our attempts using Genesreunited do we! We have been doing ancestry for a long time now and have most of the answers.
We use Ancestry.Co/LDS/thegenealogist all the BMD's and parish record facilities and GenesReunited some considerable time ago, but now with the latter methods seem to have changed somewhat!. However I think I now have the gist of it! So! Thank you all for your help so far! Lambert

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jan 2011 16:01

You sound like you have 'given up' Lambert !! ???

What 'exactly' is it you are looking for?

I am sure we can help if you give us all the info you have.

Dea x

Lambert

Lambert Report 26 Jan 2011 16:17

Thanks Dea !

What we are looking for is any relevant info on above Joseph Houghton who we have nothing further from 1881 census, the only info we have is as shown above, we have spent many hours at Warrington Archives etc where their respective Archivist spent hours on our behalf Lambert

Dea

Dea Report 26 Jan 2011 16:27

O.K. then, let's start off with what you 'know' and work from there :


1881 England Census
about Joseph Houghton Name: Joseph Houghton
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane Houghton
Gender: Male
Where born: Warrington

Civil Parish: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 78 Cockhedge Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Grocer

Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Houghton 56
Jane Houghton 56 b Chester
Thomas Houghton 21 Dyer, unemployed
John Cooper 12 (NOT convinced the name is Cooper !!)
Joseph Cooper 3
William Jackson 20

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3797; Folio: 41; Page: 22; GSU roll: 1341908.


Dea x

Lambert

Lambert Report 27 Jan 2011 07:59

Thanks Dea!

All the above is known to us, its just what happened after 1881!

Cheers Lambert

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2011 09:03

Not sure about the 1891 census posted by Ginny, there was another Joseph, born Orrell on earlier census records.

This looks like the son Thomas in 1891 -

Thomas Houghton
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1861
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Foreman Dyer
Address Foundry Street
District Halifax, Rastrick
Parish Rastrick
Administrative County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Birth Place Warrington
Birth County Lancashire

Married to Catherine (29, born Manchester) and they have 2 children Frederick (5) and Harry (1).

No luck on Joseph so far.

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2011 09:22

This may be his death, in the same area as son was living:

Deaths Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Houghton Joseph 65 Halifax 9a 294

I can't see another Joseph living in the Halifax area on the 1881 census, but the only way to check would be to get the certificate and hope the son or daughter-in-law registered the death.

Thomas's sons - Frederick born Bolton but Harry born Brighouse (reg Halifax, quarter 1 1890) which would put the family in the area prior to Joseph's death.

Flip

Flip Report 27 Jan 2011 10:04

Dea is doubtful about the grandchildren's name on the 1881 census - I think it may be Conner or Connor after looking at the original.

On the 1851 census they had a daughter Elizabeth (5) and there is a marriage in 1866 to a John Connor which could be her.

Can't find Joseph/Jane in 1861 have you managed to locate them?

Dea

Dea Report 27 Jan 2011 10:14

Thanks Flip,

The 1891 posted by Ginny is not the same one as he is there with Margaret on 1881, I believe.

I think you may be on to something with that Halifax death - well done!

I can't look yet but I will do some exploring later.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jan 2011 10:01

I feel sure Flip has found the correct death - just nudging this up for Lambert.

Dea x

Lambert

Lambert Report 28 Jan 2011 13:01

Thank you Dea, very much appreciated, Lambert will get back to you as soon as he returns, Kindest regards, Betty.

Lambert

Lambert Report 28 Jan 2011 15:04

Sorry Dea! But I 'm afraid the Joseph & Margaret listed are not our Houghton'S
Thanks again Lambert

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jan 2011 15:24

Lambert - I 'did' say a few posts back that Joseph and Margaret were NOT 'yours'!

What do you think about the death which Flip has found for Joseph??

I have also followed it through and believe she is correct - Joseph's son Thomas got married and moved to Halifax!

Joseph's wife had died and so it looks like he went to live with Thomas ans his wife and died in Halifax in 1890.

It all adds up !

What do you think?

Dea x

Flip

Flip Report 28 Jan 2011 18:07

I followed Thomas, by the 1901 census he was in Stockport with family, still there in 1911 with wife & 3 children. They had 3 children all still living according to the original.

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jan 2011 18:34

Yes, I did too Flip.

I checked it all through and I 'know' you are right about the death... (Of course, only the death cert will confirm that ).

I wish Lambert would just realise that you have almost certainly found him exactly the information he has been looking for for all this time.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 28 Jan 2011 19:26

I have sent another pm to Lambert - hope he comes back soon.

Dea x