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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2018 11:49

I know this is nothing to do with Gustavus, but I'm hooked!

Re the possible 1861 marriage -

I can't find a Phoebe Snider anywhere in 1861.
But there's this Phoebe (maybe nothing to do with the Coyne story):

Phoebe Powell
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Phoebe Powell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: 1840
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: United States <<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East End
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 3316
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Court 36
Jane A Court 35
Alice Court 14
John Court 13
Thomas E Court 6
Leonard Court 4
Phoebe Powell 21 - single, vocalist (travelling)
Alice Heseltine 31

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2018 12:38


Re Gustavus - (and note Bertha's again calling herself American in 1889)


Freeman's Journal Dublin, Republic of Ireland
9 Sep 1889
Advertisements & Notices
. . . . . . .engagement Ior Six Nights. II%* World-Renowned Irish Actor, Vocalistetc. Mr CARD-NIL COYNE, 1 In conjunction with the American Actress, Miss BERTHA FLETCHER, and master GUSTAVUS, the Boy Sensaklon. Wonderful engagement. A beautiful novelty. Grand, Arnist:c. . . . .



The Era London, England
2 Jul 1892
PROVINCIAL THEATRICALS
. . . . . Pugh. The company appearing this week includes Miss Ethel Victor, burlesque actress ; Cris, a good ventriloquist; Gardiner Coyne and his combina- tion int a sketch called Lift (it the (Oold Diyrlins; Young Gussie, juvenile artiste; Fiorrie Florence, ballad . . . . .


The Era London, England
8 Apr 1893
AMUSEMENTS IN LIVERPOOL
Watty Walton is popular here. In the farce Handy Andy the characters are well sustained by Mr Gardiner Coyne, the hero; Mr W. C. Stetson, Master Gustavus; and Miss B. Fletcher. The feats of the Espaliers elicited enthusiasm; and Miss Flo Hastings wins approval . . . .



The Era London, England
20 May 1893
AMUSEMENTS IN LIVERPOOL
. . . . . the week were Wclly Reilly, In the Grip of the Law, The Avalasseie, and The Keepsake, played on Friday for Mr Coyne's benefit. Young Gustavus, character and descriptive vocalist, also appeared. ST. JAITES's HALL-lessee, Mr Sam Hague.-Mr Leoni Clarke and . . . . .



???

Glasgow Evening Post Lanarkshire, Scotland
30 Dec 1893
YOUNG GUSTAVUS, The Juvenile Marvel
YOUNG GUSTAVUS, The Juvenile Marvel. V Miss AMY MACNALLY, Berk) Comedienne and Top Boot Dancer. kael moreitz, Tyrolean and Character Entertainer. CAGLIO T O, Extraordinary —The Man Mystery. STANLEY SANEORD, Transatlantic Song' and Dance Men. JESSIE HOWARTH . . . . .



Hamilton Herald and Lanarkshire Weekly News Lanarkshire, Scotland
8 Mar 1895
VICTORIA HALL. HAMILTON. SATURDA Y EVENING CONCERTS. SATURDAY, 9rn MARCH, 1815. 4 ;ARDNER COYNE. GUSTAVUS. MISS MARIE KEATING. THE MACKLIN & VICTORIA HALL. HAMILTON. SATURDA Y EVENING CONCERTS. SATURDAY, 9rn MARCH, 1815 [ 1895 ]. 4 ;GARDNER COYNE. GUSTAVUS. MISS MARIE KEATING. THE MACKLIN& MISS JANE K. FORD. MR R. C. DI•GILL THE BANNERMANB. Melst and Acoornpaaig—Ma JAX KLYIL




The Era London, England
29 Feb 1896
AMUSEMENTS IN LIVERPOOL
. . . . . patrons here is now being carried by means of the r engagements of Tennyson and OhGorman, comedians; ,f Young Gustavus, juvenile comedian;* Gardiner Coyne's2 sCombination, in a sketch named The While Stave,z e illustrated by living pictures; the Hihernian Boys . . . .


And many other reports. In a couple of them he's listed as Hal Gustavus.

So he does seem to have been with his parents, at least from 1889 onwards.
1891 - Henry and son Harry are together (already posted), but no sign of Gustavus.

This might be Bertha in 1891, again claiming US birth (New Jersey) - but Gustavus isn't with her either:


Bertha Coyne
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Bertha Coyne
Gender: Female
Age: 28
Relationship: Boarder
Birth Year: 1863
Birth Place: NJ
Civil Parish: Rochdale
Residence Place: Spotland, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district: Spotland Nearer Side
ED, Institution or Vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 3334
Folio: 120
Household Members:
Name Age
Edmund Taylor 29
Kate Tayler 31
Eliza Jane Tayler 6
Harriett Tonks 20
John Hamer 31
James Curry 19
Richard Toward 21
James W Whitworth 30
Bertha Coyne 28 - married, theatrical <<<<<<<<<<
Norman Watts 30


Perhaps Gustavus was in Ireland in 1891 - maybe at school, or with Coyne relatives.
But where is he in 1901 and particularly 1911 after his marriage??


Re New Jersey - Bertha's brother Thomas and her sister Josephine both emigrated to the US, and lived in New Jersey

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Dec 2018 00:41

Ancestry has a tree as follows-; Gustavus Patrick Coyne- Gardiner born Dewsbury.
Father- Henry Andrew Coyne-Gardiner born Ireland.
Mother- Bertha Eugenia Amanda Fletcher born Bolton.
Wife-Ella Dale. Son Terence George Gardiner- Coyne born 1914 in Antrim
Signed up in 1914 in Porthmadoc
Killed in action on 15th March 1917

Christine in Yorkshire

Christine in Yorkshire Report 4 Dec 2018 13:10

To all who have posted since I last replied . I am so sorry not to have responded but I have been at the hospital with my father who has just passed away. So thank you all so very much for your time and effort and when things are sorted I will come back and look at your replies and respond.

Thank you again

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Dec 2018 16:52

Sorry for your loss xx

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 4 Dec 2018 18:39

I'm so sorry to hear your sad news. xx

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Dec 2018 19:19

Very sorry to hear of your father's death, Christine.

Christine in Yorkshire

Christine in Yorkshire Report 24 Mar 2019 16:37

I am just revisiting this thread to thank the very kind people who spent their time and effort in helping me find information about Gustavus. You are all very much appreciated!
He certainly had an interesting family (!) and I will try and summarise that in the Remembrance book I am putting together. which I am now way behind with due to family circumstances.
I still have 2/3 names I am a bit stuck with so I am drawing a line under Gustavus and will post the others if I can't get any further with them.

Once again, many thanks

Christine