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I am looking for the Butler family when most of them were born in Lancashire, Cheshire and Liverpool from around 1870, some of the parents were born before in Derbyshire. I have noticed that a man called Robert Green has a tree on this site and I have messaged him because he also has lots of my Butler family but the message has not been opened! So I am looking for him for some help but don't know how to find him! thanks.
Lyn

If the message hasn't been opened then it is possible that he no longer uses the site. If he still has the same email address that he registered with Genes then he should be notified that he has a message from you.

Unfortunately if he doesn't open your message then there is nothing you can do.

Kath. x

As the message hasn't been opened then maybe us helpers could try to help if you give some info and what you are stuck at or are looking for

This chap is in Linda's tree on this site

BUTLER, PETER MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 8

First name(s) Peter
Last name Butler
Birth year 1870
Birth parish Liverpool
Birth town Liverpool
Birth county Lancashire
Birth country England
Service number 2597
Regiment -
Year 1887
Attestation date 10 Jan 1887
Attestation age years 17
Attestation age months 10
Attestation service number 2597
Attestation corps 3rd Battalion East Lancashire Regiment
Document type Attestation
Series Wo 96 - Militia Service Records 1806-1915
Archive The National Archives
Archive reference WO 96

Siblings, perhaps?

BUTLER, PATRICK MURPHY Order
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 4

BUTLER, ELLEN MURPHY Order
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 64

BUTLER, AGNES MURPHY Order
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 33

BUTLER, MARGARET MURPHY Order
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 42

BUTLER, THOMAS MURPHY Order
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 71

Can't see any of the above on censuses - except, possibly, Patrick in 1911

EDIT: Could this be Peter?

Name: Peter Butler
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bacup
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 49 Plantation St Bacup
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Dealer
Registration district: Haslingden
Registration District Number: 471
Sub-registration district: Bacup
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 24720
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Butler 41
Bridget Butler 33
Peter Butler 6
John Butler 4
Thomas Butler 2
James Butler 7 Dys

From the Liverpool Catholic records on Ancestry


Thomas Butler
29 Aug 1866 2 Sep 1866 St Augustine (Augustini) Thoma,
Margarita

Margareta Butler
27 Oct 1867 9 Nov 1867 St Alban's Church Thomas,
Margaretae

Petrus Butler
31 Aug 1869 12 Sep 1869 St Anthony's Thoma,
Margarita

Helena Butler
6 Nov 1870 19 Nov 1870 St Anthony's Thoma,
Margarita

Patricius Butler
29 Feb 1872 10 Mar 1872 St Augustine (Augustini) Thoma,
Margarita

Agnes Butler
24 Nov 1873 5 Dec 1873 Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette Thomae,
Margaritae

Quick look in search trees suggests that Robert joined site about 2007/2008 ish ( from membership number) so he may well not be a member now.

he has in his tree Elizabeth Butler 1849
Place of Birth: LIVERPOOL

in case that helps :-)

Possible?


Peter Buttler
in the 1871 England Census
Name:
Peter Buttler
Age:
2
Estimated birth year:
abt 1869
Relation:
Son
Father's name:
James Buttler
Mother's name:
Elizabeth Buttler
Where born:
Flookburgh, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Lower Holker
Town:
Flookburgh
County/Island:
Lancashire

Household Members:
James Buttler 45
Elizabeth Buttler 43
Thomas Buttler 16
Margaree Buttler 13
James Buttler 7
John Buttler 6
Peter Buttler 2
Agness Buttler 1 Month

Peter Buttler
in the 1881 England Census
Name:
Peter Buttler
Age:
12
Estimated birth year:
abt 1869
Relationship to Head:
Son
Father:
James Buttler
Mother:
Elizabeth Buttler
Where born:
Flookburgh, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Lower Holker
County/Island:
Lancashire
Occupation:
Scholar
Registration district:
Ulverston

Household Members:
James Buttler 55
Elizabeth Buttler 53
James Buttler 19
John Buttler 17
Peter Buttler 12
Agness Buttler 10

This may be one of the children


Name: Margaret Butler
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 3
Registration district: Liverpool
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 85

If the 1911 I posted above is the right Peter, tthese are the children's births from Lancsbmd
1904
BUTLER Peter DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/11/36
1907
BUTLER John DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/14/8
1908
BUTLER Thomas DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/15/92
1910
BUTLER Joseph DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/17/17
1911
BUTLER James DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/18/19

Two later ones

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Butler Francis Duffy Haslingden 8e 178
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
BUTLER George Duffy Haslingden 8e 168

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903

BUTLER Peter DUFFY Bridget Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/112/24

Name: Bridget Butler
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: abt 1878
Registration Date: Mar 1950
Registration district: Haslingden
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 434

HI thanks to you all for looking at the Butlers. I have just ordered a copy of Louisa Butlers 1887 birth certificate to make sure exactly who her parents are which would also be who Peter Butlers parents are as I think they were oldest brother and youngest sister! I also think that their parents were William and Elizabeth Butler as I have several census copies and as I said before William was born in Derbyshire. Thanks.

You didn't mention any forenames when you posted originally, which is why all of the info I posted above is speculative

Is THIS the Louisa you have now mentioned?

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Butler Louisa Toxteth Park 8b 208

If it is, her mother was SIMPSON prior to her marriage

BUTLER, LOUISA MMN =SIMPSON
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 208

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53, Scott Street, Liscard, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Elizabeth Butler Head Widow Female 56 1845 Chester, Cheshire, England Nurse (Monthly) Transcription
Mary M Butler Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Laundress Transcription
Louisa Butler Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Liverpool, Lancashire, England -

Posting these censuses, so people can see who you're looking for

1891
Ashville Road, Poulton with Seacombe, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Butler Head Married Male 58 1833 Derbyshire, England Labourer General Transcription
Elizabeth Butler Wife Married Female 40 1851 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Sarah E Butler Daughter - Female 13 1878 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Mary M Butler Daughter - Female 11 1880 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Mabel Butler Daughter - Female 6 1885 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Louisa H E Butler Daughter - Female 3 1888 Lancashire, England

Sarah's birth - again showing MMN SIMPSON
BUTLER, SARAH ELIZABETH SIMPSON
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 304 Order


Also Mary


BUTLER, MARY MAUD SIMPSON Order
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TEXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 350

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
48, Skirving Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Butler Head Married Male 45 1836 Derbyshire, England Furnaceman Iron Foundry Transcription
Elizabeth Butler Wife Married Female 32 1849 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - Transcription
Peter Butler Son Single Male 10 1871 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Sarah E Butler Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Scholar Transcription
Ivy Butler Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England -