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Just as a point of interest, Andrew Curren says in 1871 that he was born in Ireland

Got the certificate and yes mother is Elizabeth Simpson. What happened to Andrew Curren then between the 1871 census and you said that Elizabeth had another Herbert Curren baby in 1875 and then Elizabeth married William Butler in December 1876? cant see any deaths between those dates? thanks.

Thanks only just seen these messages as have been busy!! Yes it is Louis butler am still waiting for the birth certificate, thanks.

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Curran William Morrissey Tynemouth 10b 445


Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
Curran Peter Richard Tynemouth 10b 554 Scan available - click to view
Morrissey Mary Tynemouth 10b 554

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Back White Street Walker Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Walker, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Peter Richard Curran Head Married Male 40 1871 Lllanc Liverpool Tester Lloyds Proving House Transcription
Mary Curran Wife Married Female 35 1876 Northumberland Walker - Transcription
Elizabeth Curran Daughter Single Female 8 1903 Northumberland Walker - Transcription
Michael Curran Daughter Single Male 7 1904 Northumberland Walker - Transcription
Mary Ann Curran Daughter Single Female 4 1907 Northumberland Walker - Transcription
Peter Curran Son Single Male 3 1908 Durham Jarrow - Transcription
John Curran Son Single Male 0 1911 Northumberland Walker - Transcription


1939

Curran Household (3 People)
Lloyds Proving House Wincomblee Road , Newcastle-upon-Tyne C.B., Northumberland, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Peter R Curran 06 May 1870 Male ??? Married 243 1
Mary Curran 24 May 1875 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 243 2
William Curran 30 Sep 1917 Male Painter Decorator (House) Single 243 3

So Peter wasn't actually a Butler

1871 census
Name: Elizabeth Curren
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Andrew Curren
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Household schedule number: 235
Piece: 3761
Folio: 84
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew Curren 21
Elizabeth Curren 21
Peter Richd Curren 1



CURRAN, PETER RICHARD SIMPSON Order
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 107

And a sibling

CURRAN, HERBERT SIMPSON Order
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 175

Name: Elizabeth Simpson
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Richard Simpson
Mother's name: Maria Simpson
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pilkington
Ecclesiastical parish: Stand
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Radcliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 220
Piece: 2216
Folio: 361
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Simpson 27
Maria Simpson 22
Elizabeth Simpson 2

Name: Elizabeth Simpson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1869
Marriage Place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Richard Simpson
Spouse: Andrew Curren (father's name Peter)
FHL Film Number: 1656683


Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
Butler William Liverpool 8b 287
CURRANS Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 287

Possibly....................

Name: William Buttler
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: 1834
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Maperley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Runcorn
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Runcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 2597
Folio: 124
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Jones 57
Mary Jones 57
Mary Jones 21
Mary Jane Roberts 10
William Buttler 27

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
48, Skirving Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Butler Head Married Male 45 1836 Derbyshire, England Furnaceman Iron Foundry Transcription
Elizabeth Butler Wife Married Female 32 1849 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - Transcription
Peter Butler Son Single Male 10 1871 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Sarah E Butler Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Scholar Transcription
Ivy Butler Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England -

Sarah's birth - again showing MMN SIMPSON
BUTLER, SARAH ELIZABETH SIMPSON
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 304 Order


Also Mary


BUTLER, MARY MAUD SIMPSON Order
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TEXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 350

Posting these censuses, so people can see who you're looking for

1891
Ashville Road, Poulton with Seacombe, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Butler Head Married Male 58 1833 Derbyshire, England Labourer General Transcription
Elizabeth Butler Wife Married Female 40 1851 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Sarah E Butler Daughter - Female 13 1878 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Mary M Butler Daughter - Female 11 1880 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Mabel Butler Daughter - Female 6 1885 Lancashire, England Scholar Transcription
Louisa H E Butler Daughter - Female 3 1888 Lancashire, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
53, Scott Street, Liscard, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Elizabeth Butler Head Widow Female 56 1845 Chester, Cheshire, England Nurse (Monthly) Transcription
Mary M Butler Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Laundress Transcription
Louisa Butler Daughter Single Female 13 1888 Liverpool, Lancashire, England -

You didn't mention any forenames when you posted originally, which is why all of the info I posted above is speculative

Is THIS the Louisa you have now mentioned?

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Butler Louisa Toxteth Park 8b 208

If it is, her mother was SIMPSON prior to her marriage

BUTLER, LOUISA MMN =SIMPSON
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in TOXTETH PARK Volume 08B Page 208

HI thanks to you all for looking at the Butlers. I have just ordered a copy of Louisa Butlers 1887 birth certificate to make sure exactly who her parents are which would also be who Peter Butlers parents are as I think they were oldest brother and youngest sister! I also think that their parents were William and Elizabeth Butler as I have several census copies and as I said before William was born in Derbyshire. Thanks.

Name: Bridget Butler
Death Age: 72
Birth Date: abt 1878
Registration Date: Mar 1950
Registration district: Haslingden
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 434

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903

BUTLER Peter DUFFY Bridget Hyndburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/112/24

If the 1911 I posted above is the right Peter, tthese are the children's births from Lancsbmd
1904
BUTLER Peter DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/11/36
1907
BUTLER John DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/14/8
1908
BUTLER Thomas DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/15/92
1910
BUTLER Joseph DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/17/17
1911
BUTLER James DUFFY Bacup Preston BAC/18/19

Two later ones

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Butler Francis Duffy Haslingden 8e 178
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
BUTLER George Duffy Haslingden 8e 168

This may be one of the children


Name: Margaret Butler
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 3
Registration district: Liverpool
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Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 85

Peter Buttler
in the 1881 England Census
Name:
Peter Buttler
Age:
12
Estimated birth year:
abt 1869
Relationship to Head:
Son
Father:
James Buttler
Mother:
Elizabeth Buttler
Where born:
Flookburgh, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:
Lower Holker
County/Island:
Lancashire
Occupation:
Scholar
Registration district:
Ulverston

Household Members:
James Buttler 55
Elizabeth Buttler 53
James Buttler 19
John Buttler 17
Peter Buttler 12
Agness Buttler 10