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17 Nov 2016 22:10 |
I have very little information on my Great Grandfather Mr. Angold his christian name could be Fredrick, Leonard, Bernard as these were his Grandsons He had a furniture business in the Hackney Road London. He left my Grandmother in the 1800. Unable to even find a death or marriage certificate to Emeline I believe her single name was Moffat They had one child Emmaline Eleanor Mary Angold later Hambling. My grandfather's name was Isaac George Hambling I have been unable to find his birth certificate. found marriage to Emaline and then his death certificate Thanks in advance for any information
Yvonne Williams
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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17 Nov 2016 22:36 |
Some idea of years would help
Often there aren't any births certs pre 1875 Because it wasn't compulsory to reg a birth before then
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17 Nov 2016 23:04 |
Welcome to the boards Yvonne
For our info - a starting point with dates
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) EMELINE ELEANOR M Last name ANGOLD Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1900 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ EMELINE ELEANOR M ANGOLD married one of these people ISAAC GEORGE HAMBLING, CHARLES FREDERICK GIBBONS District HACKNEY District number - County London Country England Volume 1B Page 1010 Record set
the marriage certificate should name Isaac's Father and give his occupation which might help find him/the family
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17 Nov 2016 23:13 |
??? Results: Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: ANGOLD, EMMELINE ELEANOR GARDNER Order GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 292 Order
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17 Nov 2016 23:19 |
Your opening post is a bit confusing - am I reading correctly that Emeline Eleanor M Angold's mother is also Emeline. If so, is this her?
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) EMMELINE Last name ANGOLD Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1849 Age 67 Death quarter 2 Death year 1916 District ISLINGTON County London Volume 1B Page 259
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17 Nov 2016 23:21 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN HENRY Last name ANGOLD Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1867 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN HENRY ANGOLD married one of these people MARIA WARD, EMMELINE GARDNER District BETHNAL GREEN District number - County London Country England Volume 1C Page 799
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17 Nov 2016 23:27 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 44 Lockhurst Street, St John At Hackney, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place George Hambling Head Married Male Eningers Fitter 38 1873 London St Lukes Emmeline Hambling Wife Married Female - 40 1871 - Emmeline Hambling D - Female - 10 1901 Bethnal Green Clapton Park Annie Hambling Daughter - Male - 8 1903 Homerton Frederick Hambling Son - Male - 6 1905 Clapton Park Leonard Hambling Son - Male - 4 1907 Clapton Park May Helen Hambling Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Clapton Park Burnard Hambling Son - Male - 0 1911 Clapton Park
Married 11 years 6 children born and still alive
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17 Nov 2016 23:28 |
1939 Register
Hambling Household (5 People) 44 Lockhurst Street , Hackney, London, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER George I Hambling 16 Sep 1873 Male Engineer Fitter Widowed 80 1 Emmeline A Hambling 30 Apr 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 80 2 Annie E Hambling 23 Nov 1902 Female Folding Box Stripper Heavy Worker Single 80 3 Kenneth Hambling 28 Feb 1875 Male Instrument Maker Aer? Single 80 4 Theresa M Drummond 02 Aug 1913 Female Milliner Single 80 5
Believe Kenneth born 1915 and Theresa may be 1912. She is formerly Hambling, change of name appears to have been added 13.4.1943
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17 Nov 2016 23:32 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Emeline may have knocked a year or so off her birth year ! 159, Glenarm Road, Hackney, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Smith Head Married Male 32 1869 Carpet Warehouse Asst Cranbrook, Kent, England Charlotte Smith Wife Married Female 35 1866 - Aston, Warwickshire, England Dorothy Smith Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - London, Middlesex, England Willm Leipnick Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Carpenter Norfolk, England George Hambling Lodger Married Male 26 1875 Engine Fitter Islington, Middlesex, England Emiline Hambling Lodger Married Female 27 1874 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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17 Nov 2016 23:37 |
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) EMELINE E M Last name HAMBLING Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1871 Age 47 Death quarter 1 Death year 1918 District HACKNEY County London Volume 1B Page 630 Country
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17 Nov 2016 23:40 |
??England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) EMMALINE Last name GARDNER Birth year 1848 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District BETHNAL GREEN County London Country England Volume 2 Page 55
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17 Nov 2016 23:52 |
If this is emeline Snr then she would appear to have been widowed between 1891 and 1901 unless her status is for appearances sake
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Underwood Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Emeline M Angold Head Married Female 42 1849 Fancy Box Maker Middlesex, England
------------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Block a Guinness Buildings, 15, St Luke, Holborn, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Emmaline Angold Head Widow Female 52 1849 Box Maker Hackney, Middlesex, England ---------------------- 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 103 Guinness Trust Buildings Lever St Finsbury E C, St Luke, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Emeline Angold Head Widow Female Cardboard Box Maker 62 1849 London Bethnal Green
Mistakenly completed and crossed out - married 43 years with 3 children born 2 of whom have died
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18 Nov 2016 00:01 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29, Union Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William H Gardner Head Married Male 56 1805 Tailor Hackney, Middlesex, England Ellen Gardner Wife Married Female 33 1828 Shoe Binder Hoxton, Middlesex, England Emiline Gardner Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Book Binder Middlesex, England Charles B Gardner Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Hoxton, Middlesex, England
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18 Nov 2016 00:06 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ANGOLD, JOHN HENRY CRICK GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 17
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%) Angold John Bethnal Green 2 10 Crick Jane Bethnal Green 2 10 Davis Susanna Bethnal Gn 2 10 Gabriel Ann Bethnal Green 2 10 Gilbert Josiah Bethnal Grn 2 10 Gogay Hannah Bethnal Green 2 10 Morren Amelia Bethnal Gn 2 10 Powell William John Bethnal Gn 2 10 Taylor Henry Bethnal Gn 2 10
----------------------------- But unfortunately this death ? Name: Age at Death (in years): Order: ANGOLD, JANE 29 Order GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 389
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18 Nov 2016 00:08 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Temple Street, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Angold Head Married Male 26 1825 Joiner Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Ellenor Angold Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John H Y Angold Son - Male 4 1847 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Sarah Chyne Visitor Widow Female 58 1793 Weaveress Hand Loom Mile End, Middlesex, England William MacKenzie Lodger Head Married Male 19 1832 Wood Letter Cutter Bromley, Middlesex, England Mary MacKenzie Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England
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? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Note his Mother's name Eleanor 13, West Street, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Angold Head Married Male 35 1826 Cabinet Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Elanor Angold Wife Married Female 39 1822 Sil Weaveress Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John Angold Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England George Angold Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Thomas Angold Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
(George's mother's maiden name shows as Latham on the GRO index)
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18 Nov 2016 00:11 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN Last name ANGOLD Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1850 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN ANGOLD married one of these people HARRIET LOVELL, ELEANOR LATHAM, JANE LOW, ANN NIALL
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18 Nov 2016 00:11 |
??England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN H Last name ANGOLD Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1847 Age 84 Death quarter 4 Death year 1931 District BETHNAL GREEN County London Volume 1C Page 133
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18 Nov 2016 01:30 |
Did John Henry "take up" with this lady. Not seeing a marriage to fit
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Suffolk Road, Shoreditch, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John H Angold Head Married Male 44 1847 Cabinet Maker Middlesex, England Alvena Angold Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Middlesex, England William H Angold Son - Male 2 1889 - Middlesex, England Isabel Angold Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Middlesex, England Thomas Angold Son - Male 0 1891 - Middlesex, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John H Angold Head Married Male 53 1848 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Alvina Angold Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Isabella Angold Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Brushmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England William H Angold Son Single Male 13 1888 Paper Stainer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Rose Angold Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John Angold Son Single Male 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Jane Angold Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 74 Temple Street Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Henry Angold Head Married Male Cabinet Maker 63 1848 B G London Bethnal Green Alvina Pelena Angold - Married Female - 48 1863 London Haggerston William Angold - Single Male Trimmer 23 1888 London B G Bethnal Green Isabel Angold - Single Female Servant 24 1887 London Haggerston John Angold - Single Male Fitter 19 1892 London B G Bethnal Green Jane Angold - Single Female Brush Cleaner 16 1895 London B G Bethnal Green
Married 25 years 6 children born to marriage, 5 still living
It probably reads Alvena Selena
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18 Nov 2016 01:32 |
Alvina died 1911
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) ALVINA S Last name ANGOLD Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1863 Age 48 Death quarter 4 Death year 1911 District BETHNAL GREEN County London Volume 1C Page 159
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18 Nov 2016 01:35 |
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
Shoreditch RD covers Haggerston where Alvena is said to have been born as per census
First name(s) ALVINIA SELINA Last name RITTER Birth year 1862 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's last name - District SHOREDITCH County London Country England Volume 1C Page 111
------------------ Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: RITTER, ALVINIA SELINA FREYHOFER Order GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 111
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