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17 Jul 2017 05:00 |
My grand father Issac George Hambling, died in April 1948 and he was aged 78 so looks the dates are out! He was known as George. Amazing how the names were spelt. just a later here and there, can make all of the difference Thank you all :-)
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17 Jul 2017 04:50 |
I am so very upset that I was not able to answer any of your posted information. True fully this is the first time I have been able to open this. It does seem correct. Thank you for the picture. I am sure that is her. Issac George was and engineer, so it seems to match. My grand father Issac George I do know had a sister Jane. She had a son John who was called Jack. She was a money lender. Lived in Clapton as did Issac and Emmeline
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19 Nov 2016 14:17 |
Have sent PM to Yvonne advising how to return to her thread.
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18 Nov 2016 19:31 |
Emmiline Gardner
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Record Image View
Name: Emmiline Gardner Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Age: 19 Spouse: John Henry Angold Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 9 Dec 1867 Parish: St Philip, Bethnal Green Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Henry Gardner Spouse Father: John Angold Register Type: Parish Register
He's a cabinet maker, 123 Millington Row, his father a cabinet maker. Her address 12 Willows Walk, her father an engraver. Witnesses John & Eleanor Angold.
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18 Nov 2016 03:27 |
Year of birth for Isaac and Hephzibah look to be a bit out
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Albert Road, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Samuel Hambling Head Married Male 54 1837 Machine Fitter St Pancras, Middlesex, England Ann Hambling Wife Married Female 53 1838 - Middlesex, England Isaac Hambling Son Single Male 19 1872 Sugar Maker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Hephzibah Hambling Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Machine Fitter Middlesex, England
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: HAMBLING, HEPHZIBAH MURFETT Order GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 68
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18 Nov 2016 02:28 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) SAMUEL Last name HAMBLING Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1854 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ SAMUEL HAMBLING married one of these people SOPHIA MURPHY, ANN MURFETT District SHOREDITCH District number - County London Country England Volume 1C Page 363
------------------------------------- Samuel Hambling in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Samuel Hambling Spouse: Ann Murfett Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 19 Nov 1854 Parish: St John, Hoxton Borough: Hackney Father Name: Samuel Hambling Spouse Father: John Murfett Register Type: Parish Register
Samuel a Minor, Bachelor, Watch Maker of Seward Street, Father Samuel a toy Maker
Ann a Minor, Spinster, of York Place, Father john a Carman
Samuel and Ann signed. Married after Banns Witnesses - John Murfett signed, Sarah Murfett her mark and William Bulland/Bullard signed
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18 Nov 2016 02:12 |
1911 census has Isaac George as George born Islington
1901 census has him as George born St Luke's, London
St Luke's is an area and former civil parish in the London Borough of Islington, just north of the City of London near the Barbican and Shoreditch. It takes its name from the church of St Luke's, on Old Street west of the tube station. Wikipedia
---------------------------- St. Luke Registration District - UKBMD https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20luke.html Created : 1.7.1837 (originally "St. Luke Middlesex"); Abolished : 2.8.1869 (to become part of Holborn registration district). Sub-districts : City Road, Finsbury, Old .. ------------------------------
?? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Sep 1873 (>99%) Handling Isaac George Holborn 1b 706
Holborn RD covers St Luke's ----------------------------------------------- Which is possibly where someone got "Moffatt" from. Not the maiden name of Emeline but the maiden name of Isaac's Mother (Murfett here)
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: HANDLING, ISAAC GEORGE MURFETT Order GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 706
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18 Nov 2016 01:46 |
PROBATE -
HAMBLING - Isaac George otherwise Isaac George otherwise George of 44 Lockhurst Street Clapton Park London E5 died 4 April 1949 Administration (with will) London 27 September to Emmeline Annie Hambling and Annie Elizabeth Hambling spinsters. Effects £636 13s 10d
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18 Nov 2016 01:42 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Queens Road, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William H Ritter Head - Male 38 1833 - Surrey, England Alvena Ritter Wife - Female 40 1831 - Germany William H Ritter Son - Male 14 1857 - Middlesex, England Alvena Selina Ritter Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England Sarah Chant Visitor - Female 32 1839 - Middlesex, England
Original has birthplace of Alvena (1831) as Prussia
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18 Nov 2016 01:35 |
England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
Shoreditch RD covers Haggerston where Alvena is said to have been born as per census
First name(s) ALVINIA SELINA Last name RITTER Birth year 1862 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's last name - District SHOREDITCH County London Country England Volume 1C Page 111
------------------ Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: RITTER, ALVINIA SELINA FREYHOFER Order GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 111
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18 Nov 2016 01:32 |
Alvina died 1911
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) ALVINA S Last name ANGOLD Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1863 Age 48 Death quarter 4 Death year 1911 District BETHNAL GREEN County London Volume 1C Page 159
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18 Nov 2016 01:30 |
Did John Henry "take up" with this lady. Not seeing a marriage to fit
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Suffolk Road, Shoreditch, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John H Angold Head Married Male 44 1847 Cabinet Maker Middlesex, England Alvena Angold Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Middlesex, England William H Angold Son - Male 2 1889 - Middlesex, England Isabel Angold Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Middlesex, England Thomas Angold Son - Male 0 1891 - Middlesex, England
----------------------------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 32, Emma Street, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John H Angold Head Married Male 53 1848 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Alvina Angold Wife Married Female 38 1863 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Isabella Angold Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Brushmaker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England William H Angold Son Single Male 13 1888 Paper Stainer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Rose Angold Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John Angold Son Single Male 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Jane Angold Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 74 Temple Street Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place John Henry Angold Head Married Male Cabinet Maker 63 1848 B G London Bethnal Green Alvina Pelena Angold - Married Female - 48 1863 London Haggerston William Angold - Single Male Trimmer 23 1888 London B G Bethnal Green Isabel Angold - Single Female Servant 24 1887 London Haggerston John Angold - Single Male Fitter 19 1892 London B G Bethnal Green Jane Angold - Single Female Brush Cleaner 16 1895 London B G Bethnal Green
Married 25 years 6 children born to marriage, 5 still living
It probably reads Alvena Selena
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18 Nov 2016 00:11 |
??England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN H Last name ANGOLD Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1847 Age 84 Death quarter 4 Death year 1931 District BETHNAL GREEN County London Volume 1C Page 133
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18 Nov 2016 00:11 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) JOHN Last name ANGOLD Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1850 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN ANGOLD married one of these people HARRIET LOVELL, ELEANOR LATHAM, JANE LOW, ANN NIALL
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18 Nov 2016 00:08 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Temple Street, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Angold Head Married Male 26 1825 Joiner Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Ellenor Angold Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John H Y Angold Son - Male 4 1847 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Sarah Chyne Visitor Widow Female 58 1793 Weaveress Hand Loom Mile End, Middlesex, England William MacKenzie Lodger Head Married Male 19 1832 Wood Letter Cutter Bromley, Middlesex, England Mary MacKenzie Wife Married Female 25 1826 - Tottenham, Middlesex, England
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? 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Note his Mother's name Eleanor 13, West Street, Bethnal Green, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Angold Head Married Male 35 1826 Cabinet Maker Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Elanor Angold Wife Married Female 39 1822 Sil Weaveress Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John Angold Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England George Angold Son Unmarried Male 9 1852 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Thomas Angold Son Unmarried Male 7 1854 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
(George's mother's maiden name shows as Latham on the GRO index)
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18 Nov 2016 00:06 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ANGOLD, JOHN HENRY CRICK GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 02 Page 17
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%) Angold John Bethnal Green 2 10 Crick Jane Bethnal Green 2 10 Davis Susanna Bethnal Gn 2 10 Gabriel Ann Bethnal Green 2 10 Gilbert Josiah Bethnal Grn 2 10 Gogay Hannah Bethnal Green 2 10 Morren Amelia Bethnal Gn 2 10 Powell William John Bethnal Gn 2 10 Taylor Henry Bethnal Gn 2 10
----------------------------- But unfortunately this death ? Name: Age at Death (in years): Order: ANGOLD, JANE 29 Order GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 389
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18 Nov 2016 00:01 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29, Union Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William H Gardner Head Married Male 56 1805 Tailor Hackney, Middlesex, England Ellen Gardner Wife Married Female 33 1828 Shoe Binder Hoxton, Middlesex, England Emiline Gardner Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Book Binder Middlesex, England Charles B Gardner Son Unmarried Male 1 1860 - Hoxton, Middlesex, England
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17 Nov 2016 23:52 |
If this is emeline Snr then she would appear to have been widowed between 1891 and 1901 unless her status is for appearances sake
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Underwood Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Emeline M Angold Head Married Female 42 1849 Fancy Box Maker Middlesex, England
------------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Block a Guinness Buildings, 15, St Luke, Holborn, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Emmaline Angold Head Widow Female 52 1849 Box Maker Hackney, Middlesex, England ---------------------- 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 103 Guinness Trust Buildings Lever St Finsbury E C, St Luke, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Emeline Angold Head Widow Female Cardboard Box Maker 62 1849 London Bethnal Green
Mistakenly completed and crossed out - married 43 years with 3 children born 2 of whom have died
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17 Nov 2016 23:40 |
??England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) EMMALINE Last name GARDNER Birth year 1848 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District BETHNAL GREEN County London Country England Volume 2 Page 55
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17 Nov 2016 23:37 |
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) EMELINE E M Last name HAMBLING Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1871 Age 47 Death quarter 1 Death year 1918 District HACKNEY County London Volume 1B Page 630 Country
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