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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 19:55

Thanks JoonieCloonie - thats great.

You start to doubt yourself when something disappears! There is a Linkedin page for him but considering his age, its probably dormant. I had been trying to find contact details for the organisations list but got no where fast.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 20:05

Contact details for the Jack, Joseph and Morton Mandel School of Applied Social Sciences
http://msass.case.edu/contact/

Their email address is on that link, but is short enough for Maureen to copy.
[ Maureen said earlier that, as a novice IT user, she finds it difficult to copy and paste]

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 23 Oct 2015 20:38

Detective unfortunately there is a Gertrude Matthews in that 1921 census who fits the bill and is not 'ours'

Name: Gertrude Matthews
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 34
> Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
> Year of Immigration: 1920
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Manitoba
District: Winnipeg South
City, Town or Village: Winnipeg
Section Number: 604 Jubilee Av
Municipality: S Ward
Occupation: School Teacher

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Oct 2015 21:37

Oh well, another one bites the dust.

maureen

maureen Report 24 Oct 2015 10:20

ve family staying for a long weekend and so will not be able to follow up on anything, so don't think I have lost interest. I have emailed Rosa Bader and will see what happens. I don't think I have seen an envelope sign on messages. It is hard enough for me to refind things I have sent. I also find the tree difficult to navigate, but I will have a go entering in all these new finds, once I have copied them onto pen and paper - I really am a dinosaur electronically! Best Wishes Maureen

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Oct 2015 10:34

To access you 'sent message' box, hover your cursor over the word Message at the top of this page.
A drop down list appears. One of the entries is Sent Mesages. Slide the curser down and click on it.

If none of the messages have an envelope icon next to them, then they've all been read. Obviously that applies to GR, not your normal email account.

Assuming you have a printer, ask if your family can help you copy and paste the thread into a word doc and print it off . We always joke that if someone needs help they ask a teenager ;-)

Time permitting, I'll try to compile a basic list of who, what and where.
Enjoy your Family Time.

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 Oct 2015 10:48

Have a good weekend Maureen :-)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Oct 2015 22:02

Found Eric Matthew's wife

Name: Lelah A. Matthews
Last Residence:
21014 Bel Air, Harford, Maryland, USA
BORN: 10 Jul 1921
Died: 17 Aug 2008
State (Year) SSN issued: Kansas (Before 1951)

And her obit
http://www.mccomasfuneralhome.com/obituary/L.-Aileen-Matthews/Bel-Air-MD/571417
Extract
LELAH AILEEN MATTHEWS, age 87, of Bel Air, MD, passed peacefully in her home on August 17, 2008. She was born in Salina, KS, and the daughter of the late Homer and Lelah Jewell. She was married and the wife of the late LTC (Ret) Eric F. Matthews for 54 years. As an army wife, she lived many places throughout the United States and Germany. During her husband's last assignment at Fort Holabird, MD.....After her husband retired from the army in 1962, the family settled in Bel Air....She is survived by her daughter; Elaine Macko of Bel Air, MD; a son, Dr. George Matthews of Garden City, KS; three grandchildren.....

[MD is Maryland]

If you wanted to write to Elaine Macko, her possible address is here.
https://address.radaris.com/Bel+Air+MD/CAMELOT+DR

Possible professional address for George Matthews
https://www.doximity.com/pub/george-matthews-do

No obvious email addresses for either

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Oct 2015 23:00

Another obituary
http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Emanuel-Matthews-30896904

EXTRACT

Emanuel "Manny" Matthews, age 87, resident of 2623 Myers Rd. Shelby died Tuesday November 25, l997 in Crestwood Care Center. Born January 10, l910 in Winnipeg, Canada to Samuel and Ellen (Walker)
Survivors include his wife, Betty J. (Bumgardner) Royce** Matthews, whom he wed Oct. 15, 1976; one daughter, Rikki Matthews of New York City
He was preceded in death by his first wife Ann Matthews.

** Royce was the surname she took on her first marriage, Burngardner was her maiden name. Betty is likely to be living, aged 79.

Added - Rikki S b 1950 is his daughter with Ann. She married a Mr Weiss

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 Oct 2015 23:44

Remember Jacob Matthews born in Canada in 1917? His death

[Collection title added]
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Jack Matthews
SSN: 281072302
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1917
Birth Place: Winipeg Mani, Canada
Father Name: Samuel Matthews
Mother Name: Ellen Walker
Death Date: 18 Dec 2000
Death Certificate Number: FIX FOR "01" DOD 03/01
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Nov : Name listed as JACK MATTHEWS

As his SSDI record has listed his last residence as Alabama, perhaps he died on holiday

Name: Jack Matthews
SSN: 281-07-2302
Last Residence:
35120 Odenville, Saint Clair, Alabama, USA
BORN: 17 Jun 1917
Died: 18 Dec 2000
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Oct 2015 00:52

Detective I'm just a bit confused

the social security records don't say where he died, just where he was born (Manitoba) and where his social security number (SSN) was issued (Ohio, that is, where he was living when he applied for the number)

likely he died in Alabama as that was his residence before death

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Oct 2015 09:37

Should have added the collection title for the first one posted. It was from the Florida death index. his death was registered there, but benefits paid to an address in Alabama, . That's what the holiday assumption was based on. ;-)

Actually, I did find another online reference giving a more precise Florida location. Will add that to this post when I'm on the PC.
...............

Apologies - it wasn't the Florida Death Index, but a précis of an Obit.

Obituary Daily Times Index, 1995-Current
Dr. Jack Matthews
Age at Death: 83
Birth Date: Abt 1917
Birth Place: Winnipeg MB
Death Date: abt 2000
Death Place: Longboat Key FL
Publication or Record Date: 21 Dec 2000
http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=MATTHEWS
%2C%20Jack%20Dr&type=Keyword
...........

I'm wondering now If there was someone else called Jack Matthews whom I've picked up in error?

http://www.heathfuneralchapel.com/fullObit.php?id=849
Ann S. Matthews May 26th, 1922 - November 19th, 2014 92 Years
Funeral
November 24th, 2014 at 11:00 am
Oak Hill Burial Park
Lakeland, Florida

she was preceded in death by her husband, Jacob "Jack" Pope Matthews, Jr, a former husband David C. Pearce, Jr & survived by (amongst others) son Jacob (Jack) P. Matthews, III
..........

I'm confused now :-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Oct 2015 10:43

Here's the source for Jack Matthew's wife being Hannah P

U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1
Name: Jack Matthews
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1917
Phone Number: 046-0000
[963-8046]
Address: 825 Old Mill Rd, Pittsburgh, PA, 15238-1711 (1993)
[500 Route 909, Verona, PA, 15147-3831 (1994)]

At the same address

Name: Hannah P Matthews
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1917
Phone Number: 963-8046
Address: 500 Route 909, Verona, PA, 15147-3831 (1994)
[825 Old Mill Rd, Pittsburgh, PA, 15238-1711 (1992)]
...........

So if Ann S Matthews had been living in Florida (from the obit) all of her life, its unlikely she was known as Hannah P and had lived in Pittsburgh.

What’s the odds that there were 2 Jack/Jacob Matthews being born in 1917 Winnipeg and dying Dec 2000,

I'm still confused!


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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Oct 2015 11:08

This is probably the husband of Ann

U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Jacob Matthews Jr
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1913
Death Date: 4 Aug 1989
Cemetery: Oak Hill Burial Park
Burial or Cremation Place: Lakeland, Polk County, Florida, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Ann S. Matthews

Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
Name: Jacob Pope Matthews
Race: White
Age at Death: 75
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1913
Death Date: 4 Aug 1989
Death Place: Polk, Florida, United States

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Jack Matthews
SSN: 263-03-7266
Last Residence:
33803 Lakeland, Polk, Florida, USA
BORN: 20 Sep 1913
Died: 4 Aug 1989
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (Before 1951)

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Jack Matthews
SSN: 263037266
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1913
Birth Place: Lakeland, Florida
Father Name: J P Matthews
Mother Name: Carrie Brannan
Death Date: 4 Aug 1989
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Jan 1937: Name listed as JACK MATTHEWS

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The one posted earlier is still worth considering

Obituary Daily Times Index, 1995-Current
Dr. Jack Matthews
Age at Death: 83
Birth Date: Abt 1917
Birth Place: Winnipeg MB
Death Date: abt 2000
Death Place: Longboat Key FL
Publication or Record Date: 21 Dec 2000
http://obits.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi?Surname=MATTHEWS
%2C%20Jack%20Dr&type=Keyword
...........

:-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 27 Oct 2015 02:30

Detective wonders what I think of the most recent Jack Matthews figuring, and I think she's got it figured!

Two very similar Jack Matthews, and the one in Florida with wife Ann has been ruled out as the wrong one. The other one looks like the right one. I'm not sure what the thing about place of death is, but other than that it looks all sorted.

in another 2 years the birth record in Manitoba will become available! (100 year rule)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2015 10:57

Thanks JoonieCloonie. Will Maureen be willing to wait for 2 years? ;-) :-D

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 27 Oct 2015 14:57

little bit of info about Hannah P Matthews that seems to fit with the family

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KLWM-CZ8

Name Hannah P Matthews
Event Type Residence
Event Date Oct 1954
Event Place Pennsylvania, United States
Gender Female
Nationality USA
Education Level Master'S Degree Plus Additional Postgraduate Work
Birth Year 1917
Employer Non-Profit Foundations, Private Hospitals Or Clinics
Military Status No Report
Society Name American Psychological Association
Educational Major Psychology
Year Obtained Degree 1942
Institution Granting Degree Ohio State University The - Columbus, OH
Affiliate ARC Identifier 622629


has this marriage been noted?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3GL-7N1

Name Jack Matthews
Titles and Terms Mr
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 16 Aug 1942
Event Place Franklin, Ohio, United States
Age 25
Birth Year (Estimated) 1917
Father's Name Saml Matthews
Mother's Name Galla Goldenbrg*
Spouse's Name Hannah M Polster
Spouse's Titles and Terms Miss
Spouse's Age 24
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1918
Spouse's Father's Name Morris Polster
Spouse's Mother's Name Lea Newbloom

* mother's name doesn't match for Jack but everything else does (Hannah P for Polster) - aha, it says Jack born Winnipeg on the original image, he a soldier and she a teacher

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2015 18:06

No - hadn't considered looking on Familysearch.

'Our' Jack/Jacob Matthews mother is supposed to be a Gladys Ellen Walker b London about 1888. Could she be another name-changer or has it all gone terribly wrong?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 27 Oct 2015 18:45

well given that they were Jewish and prone to a bit of name-changing ... :-)

I would not think 'Galla' (an uncommon but not rare Jewish name) and 'Gladys' to be incompatible

and as for Goldenberg (the marriage record does say Goldenbrg in the original) and Walker ... I'm afraid I haven't followed that bit at all, even the marriage to Matthews, but is her background known?

there isn't a birth to match those specs

maureen

maureen Report 28 Oct 2015 11:37

Hello everyone. Recovering from family visit which was good. A correspondent on Rootschat found a Charles Bloomberg boot maker, aged 21 who boarded the Indiana at Liverpool, bound for Philadelphia on 6 June 1894. He suggested that Charles is a good exchange for Ezekiel, and the dates are good, plus his elder brother was a boot riveter. Can anyone find any trace of him please? Maureen