General Chat

I know it sounds trite, and has been said by many people on here, in many different ways, but as a voting Englishwoman, born and bred:
I may not agree with what you say - but I would defend with my life your right to say it!

And also your right not to have to
eat my pastry.

Joanna

Well said - I said that to someone on the telephone earlier

lol Errol, is that because of the practical uses for the pastry...or the fact that no one would have to eat it?

my lips are sealed - but only because the pastry has gummed my mouth up

LOL...good job I don't take offence easily!

sweet dreams!
Rosex

phnm hplck phnm
tasty

liar! lol ....just wait till you try the christmas cake!

I'm far too lazy to read the whole of this thread, so the chances are that someone has already put forward the following point:

I think that no matter how nauseating the arguments of David Irving et al are, it is important that they are dragged out into the light of day, where they will, no doubt, shrivel up and die. The worst thing that anyone can do is shut them up. This would only give rise to accusations of political correctness, as well as the suspicion that the stupid man is right.

Apologies for the mixed metaphors

When the pastry is wet does it go soggy? I only ask because we're in need of new sea defences up here lol

No...stays hard as a rock...doesn't it Errol? LOL

Perfect... we'll take a couple of tons *grin*

well, your's does!
Fiona although that has been said before, your points are spot on.

It wasn't the BBC who silenced Gerry Adams it was the goverment. Legislation was passed forbidding the media from broadcasting his voice.

Does "Freedom of Speech" mean the right to tell blatent lies passed off as truth with manufactured proof? I'm not sure that holocaust deniers deserve a platform, there are too many racists who want to believe them and cite their false evidence.

I've said this before - Freedom of speech does not mean the right to shout "FIRE" in a crowded building.

Gwynne

Well, I say give the likes of Irving a platform. The man is denying documented history and witnessed accounts. By giving the idiot a platform the world can see the ill informed nonsense that he is spouting and form their own opinions.

The B.N.P employ thugs, before they have a right to be heard they must firstly get rid of the Hooligans and racists.
In my opinion until they do this they have No Right to be heard!

You just have to respect a people that imprisons someone for expressing an opinion

Lance - If a muslim in this country used 'freedom of speech' as you see it, this would be the conciquence:
Radical Islamic cleric Abu Hamza was yesterday jailed for seven years at the Old Bailey after he was convicted of a string of race hate and terror charges.

Sentencing him, Mr Justice Hughes said he had "helped to create an atmosphere in which to kill has become regarded by some as not only a legitimate course but a moral and religious duty in pursuit of perceived justice".

The judge said: "No one can now say what damage your words may have caused. No one can say whether your audience, present or wider, acted on your words."

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It is possible for words and policies to cause a lot of hate and damage....As for the BNP to be innocent:

Robert Mc Glynn ,a member of the BNP in Swansea has been convicted of a race hate crime after he abused a woman in a headscarf in Landore,Swansea.

He was seen mouthing racist and sexist obscentities and shouting Sieg Hail from his car but unfortunately for him was seen and heard by a witness who then told the police.He has been fined £200 .This member of the master race probably does not even know that the nazis bombed Swansea for three nights during the war destroying a large part of the city centre.
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I put it to you that this world would be a lot nicer place if we could all live in peace and happiness and stop judging people by the colour of their skin or their religion!!!

LOU

So you're saying Lance in block capitals too, that the BNP does not hold rallies!! Really. Well according the the Oxford English Dictionary a rally is: a mass meeting of supporters or persons having a common interest. Well this is precisely what the BNP are doing so why deny it? No one objects to people having rallies, what they do object to though is the inflammatory language and the metaphoric two fingers stuck up at good living tolerant British citizens

I agree with you,Lou!!

The B.N.P do advocate violence,there is a group attached to The B.N.P party that they use purely for this purpose and then they say"Oh,Its not us,their nothing to do with our party " Piffle!!

I believe Hitler had the same policies,The German people fell for the spewing of hatred,I would hope the majority Of British people will see the B.N.P for what they are!!

Once Errol has seen the posts by Lance can someone please ask for a review if I'm not around.

I find the BNP, and their views, abhorrent and offensive.

Must be against GR's T & Cs

T.O.R. ;o))