General Chat

My counter letter is winging its way to you Ann lol

who said they haven't - my solicitors letter is in the post

I would just like to thank all people who contributed to this thread - it has been fascinating with varying opinions. The important thing is that it has been maintained as a debate, whether righrt or wrong, and people have not fallen out, so thank you for that.
xxx

Nice one Hayley

night Errol, good reply you gave earlier!, sleep well

rosex

Night Rose - please take care and sleep well.

lol....night both

rosexx

Hayley I have no idea what you are trying to suggest.

I take it Lance won't want me to nudge up the thread which you look for rellies born in other countries then ?

well said Errol

Lance, may I make a few points?
It has taken some minutes for me to understand what you are saying and forgive me if I get things wrong here.
My understanding is that you joined this site over the past 24 hours or so and you are a BNP member. You admit to being drawn to this site by another party. Why, then, join at this juncture other than to cause strife and mayhem and peddle your political "views"? That shows a political party with worries!
Why feel the need to post as you did? If your party's views were acceptable generally then you would surely not have a need to push them on a hobby site. On the contrary, your party's "genuine" views would be in the public domain for all to see and we would all come flocking because they are so correct.
Thirdly, is this how the BNP recruits? Any half decent political party in this free country in which we live does not need to rely on such tactics - even in the current climate of cash for honours etc etc

Let 'em speak then everyone will realise how evil they are and no, I'm not a liberal or wotever.

Lance, there is nothing wrong with giving a balanced view and, indeed, that is something of which we as a nation should be very proud.
However, it would maybe have been better to provide a link to a site detailing that organisation's views rather than bringing it to a largely apolitical message board.
I find the BNP to have somewhat bigoted views but that is my own opinion.
The thread contained various views, some of them may be incorrect, and a response of such political bias should not have been posted here. Signposting would have been better so that people could have made their own decisions on whether to read more.
I wish you well and hope that other than this thread you find this site extremely useful in your genealogy quest.

The purpose of my replying on behalf of the BNP to the many false assertions made on this site (as on many other sites) was - apart from putting the facts straight - to expose for general readership whether the individuals concerned were either genuinely misinformed but basically honest people, or quite another type of person - determined to persist with what they must know to be untrue; unable (of course)
to substantiate or defend their original claims; and obliged to arrange for speedy censorship to prevent too many people reading the truth.
Thank you for clarifying the point. I will now leave you in peace. Goodbye.

lol cheers Carol - I didn't want to see it getting whooshed!

Henry Porter
Sunday October 7, 2007
The Observer

cor Carol - that was a load of info - still trying to absorb it - no one will get anything of my mobile phone - only two people have my number, I can't read texts and don't know how to send them, so no joy there then

Carol just be careful - you may well be in breach of T&Cs there.

Yes, of course, we have free speech. Yet any fool understands that free speech is not simply limited to what you say, but must also include when you say it, where and to whom. In other words, the right of free speech is linked to personal privacy. If you feel constrained because a government agency may know your location, the time of call and your interlocutor, then your freedom of speech is being curtailed very substantially.

On Monday new regulations came into force, after a personal decree by the Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, that give nearly 800 public bodies the right to access your telephone records - mobile phone and landline - and make it compulsory for all phone companies to keep those records. So the data of your calls and text messages may be accessed by any damned busybody in any agency stretching from the Scottish Ambulance Service Board, the Food Standards Agency, the Environment Agency to every local council in the country. Naturally, the intelligence services and police are provided with the usual easy pass into your private life.

This was all slipped through our comatose Parliament during the summer when Smith knew people were thinking about their holidays and the electorate was enjoying some kind of post-coital swoon with its new Prime Minister. The Lib-Dem spokesman on Home Affairs, Nick Clegg, rightly asserted that the government had extended surveillance powers 'with no meaningful public or parliamentary debate'. Yet the footpads from the Home Office media department rushed round saying that a full consultation had taken place under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA).

Yeah, right. When? With whom? The Welsh Ambulance Service? The Postal Services Commission? Wychavon district council? All of them can now acquire your phone records. There was absolutely no debate about this, and it is nothing but a straight lie to claim otherwise.

Before the election - which now looks a good distance away - it is crucial to understand that some kind of circle is being closed here by Labour. That circle includes the National ID card database and the mass surveillance of people's movements by motorway ANPR cameras, the congestion charge cameras in London, Oyster cards used on London's public transport, the new parking payments by text message and God knows what else. With Monday's extension of RIPA powers, the government has created an apparatus of control only matched in sophistication by the system in China known as the Gold Shield Project. Wake up and smell the milk burning, Doris. Gold Shield is coming here, too.

Interesting that the BNP have gone to the trouble of registering here in order to post