General Chat

Sue says

"When young Sara Payne went missing and Holly Welles and Jessica Chapman to name but a few, there was high publicity for those but still not to the level that has been for Kate and Gerry.*

No comparison, those children were found in a short space of time.

Sarah's parents were, in the two weeks until she was found, subject to a whispering campaign also.....................in fact a local paedophile had taken and murdered her.

Did they ever get an apology for the spite they received for their "lack of public grief" or being pictured smiling?

No!

Everyone on here can read and draw their own conclusions without repeatedly being told the same things over and over again.

Please can we all drop it now until we have some real evidence either way.

fgs everyone KNOWS the children were left and the McCann's must be going through hell thinking 'what if' - so what is the point of going on and on about what they did - it's done and it can't be changed.

The most important thing should be finding Maddie - the police and the media and the public and some posters on this board seem to have lost sight of this - I would suggest THAT is why a fresh campaign has been started - to bring attention back to the important thing - FINDING THIS CHILD !!!
Maz. XX

ps I haven't posted much on this subject as I have found most of the threads intimidating towards anyone who is the slightest bit sympathetic towards the McCanns and the callous posts make me so angry. I know at least half a dozen others who feel the same.

Yes they left their children alone but WHY, they had a free babysitting service?
which wasn't the first time they had done.....

if it had been me or anyone else's children social services would have been round straight away, If she was in england and had gone for a meal and left her 3 little children would you still be saying what your saying, I DON'T think so

Has i have said there are children out there that have never been found, and probably never will be, but their parents had no choice, they didn't leave them on their own, so why don't these parents get the publicity for their lost children that the mccanns are getting, is it because the McCanns "know people"?.

I also think that you try and intimidate people too lynda, everyone is welcome to their opinion unless of course it is different to your.

jet

There is no way this subject will be dropped untill Madaleine is 'found'.

Everyone has their own thought's on what might have happened etc.

If anyone does not like to hear or read about the case..well dont.


Marion

It is absolutely right, it won't go away.

People are questioning their integrity, there is no doubt about that, but surely that is a healthy thing, it is not being vindictive or spiteful.

Lets also remember it was the McCanns who pushed for the media cover, not the other way round. It is a little unfair to say they are being hounded by the media, now that there is an alternative angle to their story.

As and when, should and if, this case ever be solved, some will say..."Told you all along" a % will be right and a % will be wrong.

The McCanns have thought a million times, Why did we leave them alone, and as I said in a much earlier thread, hindsight is a perfect science!!!!!!. I am sure each and every mother has at some time left their child alone, maybe to hang the washing out.... well little Mary was sound asleep in her cot I did not want to wake her just because I was in the garden....

A thought....If the McCanns had been staying in a convential hotel with the children asleep in their room, is that "leaving them alone", after all you are still in the same building.

Until there is official news from a 100% reputable source, my mind is open....Madeline was taken from her bedroom by person or persons unknown.

Kathlyn

I would just like to know what the point is in asking 'why' over and over again? None of us know! Only the McCann's themselves know!

All I'm saying is it's pointless going over and over the same thing - we all know WHAT they did, none of us know WHY, and nothing anyone says is going to change that.

None of us are privy to the details and facts of the police investigation, none of us are in communication with the McCann's, so everything we post on here is influenced by one media source or another, be it the British/Portuguese press or the tv or internet.

It's interesting to note that there are apparently some reforms being made at the moment to the Portuguese legal system which may lead to disclosure restrictions being lifted on the case. But even then we will only be told what the police and the McCann's want us to know, so I doubt we'll be any the wiser really.

Maz. XX

Why are they whinging about press intrusion? I thought they had courted the media ever since it happened?

Maz

I read about that in the Daily Record, they dont seem to print so many 'stories' about it.

The Daily Mail today also has something about it all..
Again, you dont know what is true and what isn't.

Marion

I ask "does everyone know something I don't?!", so many people keep repeating
"she was taken" .....but was she, has anyone offered any proof of an abduction?

A friend of mine lived and worked in a hotel (abroad) and was telling me the following the other evening.
one of the other workers there had a child, parent's went down to ground floor,leaving child asleep on poss 10th floor (don't know exact floor number) child woke and wandered downstairs crying, ended at my friend's door several flights down (which was fortunate as friend comforted her and went to find parents!). Child was about the same age as madeline, she also could have 'knocked at the wrong door', wandered outside the hotel..........

rosex

Rose - you are quite right - there is no proof that the little one was abducted - and there is no proof either that she wandered off out of the hotel, knocked on the "wrong door" or a dozen other scenarios.

The point is that if she did knock on the wrong door and some one took advantage of that, then she has been prevented from returning to her parents - hence abducted.

If the little mite wandered out of the hotel, into the roadway and was picked up by some sicko, then she has also prevented from returning to her parents and again - abducted.

I suppose there is the possibility that she wandered off and into the sea, but I find this possibility to be so far fetched as to be ludicrous. Some one would have seen a 4 year old out on their own, I feel sure.

No body knows how she left the room - we only know that she did.


Jacqui

You are so right Claire and Peter, they are whingeing about press intrusion but they have courted the media from the beginning. Thanks to Kate McCann's childhood friend, (GMTV's Esther McVey), they had access to the media and they milked it for the publicity from the very start, even copywriting poor Maddy's name only two weeks after the event.
I have said it before and I will say it again - if you go to bed with a tiger, don't complain if he bites you, because that is what the media is - a tiger which has no loyalties unless it sells a story.

You can't court the media for one part of a situation like this and then turn yoour back on them and whinge about them the next minute. Our press are, as Bernard said, just like a Tiger. If you are going to court them as and when it suits absolutely expect to be bitten when it doesn't.

The whole topic will go on until Maddie is found. I hope and pray that she hasn't suffered, she out of all this does not deserve what has befallen her. If Kate and Gerry are agonising, as I have said before then so be it. Maddie has suffered far more.

The press can remain allies if the McCanns work with them. What a sad and sorry state of affairs this whole thing is.

Lyn x

''..court them as and when it suits you'?

They weren't using the media to gain fame or fortune, they were trying to bring as much attention as possible onto their missing daughter in the hope that she would be found. Do you honestly think for that they deserve to have unsourced and unsubstantiated stories printed in the papers and on the net about them?

AS the McCanns begin a new campaign to clear their names, further allegations emerged over the weekend.

The hire car:
The Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after Madeleine went missing. New claims centre on its high mileage. Between May 27 and July 3, it was driven 1,700 miles, with police looking into the possibility that it may have been used to dispose of a body. Mr McCann puts the mileage down to regular trips to and from Faro airport to pick up family and friends.

The 40 questions:
Pedro Daniel dos Anjos Frias, the investigating judge, is said to want Mrs McCann interrogated again after she refused to answer more than 40 questions about her daughter's case. It is thought she could be questioned later this week by detectives in Britain. A spokesman for the couple refused to speculate.

The name "Madeleine Mccann" was set up as a Trademark
15 days after she went missing.

Bernard, the voice of reason.

I expect (and I am only guessing here, I have no personal knowledge of the McCanns), they were advised to trademark Madeleine's name to prevent its unscrupulous and fraudulent use, for example phoney fund-raising scams etc. When I first read that they had taken this step, my only thought was that it was a very sensible thing to do.

May I add, I may well be wrong about the trademark preventing fraud, and if I am I stand corrected, but that was my first and only thought on this particular aspect of the case.

Liz

Can I add that if I had lost my child I would court the press if needed to get my child back.........I would beg at the doors of the national papers etc...................But I would also want private times to grieve and be with my family also

i just pray that they find her safe and bring her home soon
the report today looked hopeful in morrocco

Lets hope this time it is her. We will have to wait and see. I am not holding my breath though.

Marion