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Now i know why i hate organised religion

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Margaret

Margaret Report 22 Jun 2006 15:04

My dad would invite them in and then try to convert THEM to RC!!!

Unknown

Unknown Report 22 Jun 2006 15:06

Being nieve as far as religion goes ... am I right in thinking that JW's don't believe in the afterlife then ?? Elaine ;-) Cringes*

Paul

Paul Report 22 Jun 2006 15:10

Do you know what I read earlier today ? To despair is a sin. So God can't help you. Unless you aren't no longer despairing. Which is surely when you'd need him the most ? Found that amusing, don't know why.

Mandy in Wiltshire

Mandy in Wiltshire Report 22 Jun 2006 15:19

Hi Jess I read your main posting and had my reply all ready to add....then I read everyone else's replies and realised that Liz had said exactly what I was going to say! Please don't assume that this person is a good representative of either organised religion or the Christian faith. They probably mean well in their own little minds, but they are greatly mistaken. I was born into a churchgoing family and attended regularly myself until a few years ago (still searching for my spiritual home but haven't given up looking). I think that whilst it is good for Christians to gather together in corporate worship, Christianity is all about the person you are, or try to be. I only make my beliefs known when I'm asked, or on such a thread as this where we are all giving our own personal opinions. A kind word, being a good friend, going the extra mile for someone, caring; those are the things that make a true Christian, not someone who forces their misguided beliefs onto others. Mandy :) x

Trish

Trish Report 22 Jun 2006 15:25

You should have told them to be a good Christian (are JW's Christian???) and help you build the wall. As you might guess, I'm not a churchgoer. Did go once to please hubby (that's another story but I've managed to convert him) and had all that 'God's will' bunkum thrown at me and how we should be like brothers and sisters to each other. When I met one of the speakers the next day in the High Street she totally ignored me even though I said Hello to her. If that's being Christian I can do without thank you.

Paul

Paul Report 22 Jun 2006 15:34

NB I should add that I'm not knocking Christians in general, as obviously there are good and bad everywhere... I just find the contradictory and rigid beliefs a little strange sometimes.

Phoenix

Phoenix Report 22 Jun 2006 15:40

I don't personally have anything against JW's, but know that they can be annoying. I try to remember that although they seem to be trying to force their opinions down other peoples throats, in their minds they are simply trying to save us all. Please don't think that this one woman is a true representative of 'organised religion' - my Step Father is a retired Methodist Minister and both he and my Mother do a huge amount of good work for people from all walks of life. My Mother would never dream of saying something so insensitive and if you had the pleasure to meet her, you would find her to be an incredibly caring and considerate person. Kaye x

DeeDickens

DeeDickens Report 22 Jun 2006 15:56

Jess, I am so sorry that some thoughtless person , seemingly representing a bunch of others, has made you so cross. If this person was a Jehovah's Witness & out deliberately to 'witness', then please be assured that JW's are NOT Christians! They are a cult, with subtle surface similarities to Christianity, just similar enough to confuse people and draw them away from finding & exploring the true message of Jesus! For instance, JW's do not believe that Jesus is also God,a basic tenet of Christianity. Denise

Sunny Rosy

Sunny Rosy Report 22 Jun 2006 15:57

Jess. Good on you for sending the woman packing. Was it God's wish that a mother of 23 , after just giving birth to delightful twins, should die for the want of a transfusion,because of a belief that might turn out to be insignificant. Those twins are now about 30, wonder if they consider their Mum was right to refuse blood. I turn JW's away with the comment that they would have denied me a family if I had thought that way. My children both being affected cos positive and negative blood argued at that time. I know medicine has come a long way in 40 years and that they are now able to treat babes within the womb. Sunny R

Unknown

Unknown Report 22 Jun 2006 16:03

I'm not part of any religion and I certainly wouldn't want it preached at me whilst trying to build a wall (LOL at the thought of me building a wall) I have to say though that I have always found the JW to be lovely kind helpful people, I don't subscribe to their beliefs and they understand that and bring me the books anyway! Just wanted to say they are not all bad and I don't believe they are a cult! Brings to mind visions of the moonies! Julie xxx

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 22 Jun 2006 17:02

JW knocks on door JW: ' Hello can I talk to you....' Elaine : 'Are you JW ?' JW : ' Yes' Elaine : 'Thanks but No thanks, Im not intersested..have a good day' End of story...off they toddle. if they persist I just continue to say 'No thanks..Goodbye... ' Simple polite and affective. Elaine x

Alan

Alan Report 22 Jun 2006 17:27

'What the Dickens' wrote: ' If this person was a Jehovah's Witness & out deliberately to 'witness', then please be assured that JW's are NOT Christians! They are a cult...' That is your view and I respect it but this is not the place to peddle bigotry. I AM NOT A JW but know several. If ever you want rid of them just tell them that you are 'disfellowshipped' that will make sure you are never bothered by them again as they are not allowed to speak to someone who has left the group.

Sue Lambrini Smith

Sue Lambrini Smith Report 22 Jun 2006 17:59

.......................disfellowshipped................................. Love it Alan.... * Sue runs off to write that on a piece of paper to stick by the front door.... cannot wait ! Sue ;-)))

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 22 Jun 2006 18:44

I tell them I am Jewish - that gets rid of them. OC

Deanna

Deanna Report 22 Jun 2006 18:57

Jess, I have found over the years that people like that are not so understanding of God's Will when he says NO to them! Just you finish your wall, I can see it from here... it's beautiful!! LOL Deanna X

Jess Bow Bag

Jess Bow Bag Report 22 Jun 2006 19:12

disfellowshipped...- never heard of that! is that similar to telling the double glazing telephone sales people that are so eager to come and quote , that you have pending CCJ's............ ( a lie by the way!) That is quite an effective deterent- suddenly they remember theyare not going to be in your area at all!!

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 22 Jun 2006 19:15

Jess I claim the unique distinction of being the only person in the Western Hemisphere to arrange an appointment for a DG salesman to call at my home, after an unsolicited call (I really really wanted DG) He did not turn up! OC

Debby

Debby Report 22 Jun 2006 19:18

Alan Why do they need to knock on peoples doors though? Don't they realise that if you were so interested, you would have already found them yourself? Debby

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 22 Jun 2006 19:22

This is an old one: Vicar leaning over the gate, talking to an old countryman. 'My word, what a beautiful garden! How wonderful to see what God and man can do together' Old Boy 'Yes, you shoulda seen it when he had it to himself' OC

~*~  Vanda  ~*~

~*~ Vanda ~*~ Report 22 Jun 2006 19:32

Jehovah’s witness knock at our door trying to save Us, giving us the chance of Coming back to a better world. And what do most of us do Try to get rid of them as quick As possible. Lol Would you spend your days Walking streets trying to save People that you do not know, Only to receive insults and doors Slammed in your face. I for one would not but then again I am not a Jehovah’s witness. I do however admire there determination.