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I think that if you take a high risk job which also pays high money then you have to be aware of the risks and take the rough with the smooth

Prostitution is only high risk because men get violent and kill or batter. Taking a dangerous job is one thing, but to be killed when you're in what should be a safe environment - I don't think so. Making love, having sex or whatever you choose to call it should never be a life-threatening activity.

That's not what I said Carol - death is a tragic thing whatever the circumstances - I was trying to make the point that it is awful that some people choose to put themselves in a situation where they are leaving themselves open to abuse etc and inevitably tragedies happen when people put themselves in that situation - often there is a drug undercurrent so maybe we shouldlook at that and address that issue before we jump on the prostiitute band wagon

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That is also what I was trying to say!

The fact is that these girls are prostituting themselves to pay for drugs. Not because they like what they do. They realise that they take huge risks, they know that their lifespan is likely to be short. They don't respect themselves. All they think about is funding their need for drugs. Drugs are the scourge of our society. Last week I saw drug dealing going on in my area at 4 in the afternoon...I called the police....was held in a queue. Too late...the dealers had gone. Apparently this is a LOW LEVEL crime!!! WHY??? Most crime stems from DRUGS! Dee x

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We are missing a major point here!!! We are trying to rationalise with the irrational - in other words do you really think these girls (and yes, mostly they are just girls) actually even stop to think about what they are doing? No! When using drugs you don't stop and think 'I hate what I am doing and wish I could stop'. You do it because you are compelled to feed your habit to the detriment of all else - nothing more and nothing less! It is not a daily decision - it is a compulsion.

Fair enough Terry.Haven't a clue what you meant but hey you have the right to say what you wish. I was just a bit taken aback that's all. Well done for deleting. I will do too in a mo xx

If you would like me to withdraw the thread then I will do so

Can't see anything wrong with the thread Errol. I don't own the boards anyhow lol. I was just a bit taken aback by something posted on it. No need to remove in my opinion xx

I stand by my comments Muffy but offered to withdraw because I don't wish to cause upset or, more importantly, an excuse for an argument with certain people. I think that it is so important to highlight the reasons why people are driven to lead a certain lifestyle - be it prostitution or whatever.

Errol if you are comfortable in your opinion let it stand babe. You have the right to put your views across. I am now going to attempt sleep again. Nite all xx

While it's true that girls are generally compelled into prostitution rather than making a considered career choice, it's for a variety of reasons. It isn't accurate or fair to say that all prostitutes are drug users. It seems very sad to me that so many judgements are made and voiced about prostitutes and so few about the men who use them. I do understand the point that Errol was trying to make, but prostitution shouldn't be a high risk job. It's men's violence that makes it so. Most prostitutes don't earn much either and the ones that do are often having to pay 'protection' to a pimp - often another man. (Don't all jump on me at once - I know that there are plenty of brothel 'madams' too.)

I don't believe anyone has said that all prostitutes are users, just the ones in this case as it has been widely broadcast that they were. My thoughts are with their families this Christmas. Every mothers worst nightmare xx

In my opinion, men should be prosecuted like they are in Sweden for paying for sex, in an industry which exploits women. Prostitution really saddens me..

Hiya Theresa I was responding to Felicity with my answer hon, chances are though it probably will be a man as they seem to think that prostitutes are fair game (pardon the unintentional pun) I have two girls and I just think 'there but for the grace of god go I'. I can drum into them right and wrong and I can beg and plead that they don't take drugs. Ultimately though they will make their own choices. Just like those poor souls did. Whatever mistakes whether it be drugs or anything else these girls made they paid the highest of prices but they are ultimately still somebodys baby I can't forget thatxx

Yes, Teresa, I agree with you. If you're referring to my comment, II wasn't suggesting that the perpetrator(s) of the recent murders is/are men. I was meaning that pretty much all violence against prostitutes is waged by men - and, quite honestly, it's far more likely that the girls in the news just now were murdered by men or a man than not. I must say that I feel for the men who have been arrested too - they may be innocent of any crime and if so their lives and reputations are in tatters already. Trial by media was a subject on another thread and is to be abhorred. There is supposed to be the concept of innocent until proven guilty but the media loses sight of that rather too often. Thank you for claryifying, Muffy. I got a little muddled as to what folks were really meaning! :-(

Very interesting comments - its a shame that RubyGemStone didnt feel comfortable enough on this thread to leave hers...I actually agreed with you Ruby and hope that you have not been put off posting - your views are as important as everyone elses.