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what a terrible experience for you as a young child to find that had happened
now your older its nice to look back and remember he stopped to see you
it brings comfort i think to believe

my mams tryin to get something thru to me at the moment i think , cos ive not had night without her in my dreams for weeks,
lots of individual dreams a night, and most iwth her in them

hi julie ann your right it does give comfort, i do hope your mum gets her message through to you, you must have been very close for her to be in your dreams like this, and how nice for you to know she is still there for you
chris x

up till last few nights we were arguing in dreams until last friday morning when i woke up , then its been like shes just wandering round observing us all

we were close, not a day goes you dont think of them does it,

that very true, even all these years later
but somehow its like my dads been here all along, i believe i will see and be with him again one day,
chris

I had twins too early the lad was born dead and I felt sad I didn't get to know him.

I had a dream I was shown into a room, and was told we have someone who wants to meet you.
There was a little dark haired boy with trousers and a vest on.
I knew instantly that it my son, they said he's been ill but he's better now.
The little lad was looking at me solemmly with big brown eyes, they said don't you want to hold him.
I said yes but I don't want to frighten him, they smiled and said, he knows your his mother he's not frightened,
I bent down to cuddle him and his little bare arms came around my neck and hugged me back, I picked him up held him close and kissed him.

I could feel his skin on me, his weight and his face when I kissed him. There was such a feeling of love, I could feel his as well as mine.

When I woke up I was crying, but it wasn't sad tears more like cleansing happy tears.

No such thng as life after death. 20 years ago I lost my wonderful Dad and my dear brother within a few years of each other, both died from cancer.
During the next few years I experienced virtually every misfortune possible, my wife ran off with someone else after embezzling most of my money from the business. I had to declare myself bankrupt. Lost my house and had to live in rented accomodation. I got a job but then my health went and I lost it. Struggled ever since, if there was such a thing as life after death my Dad and brother would have found a way to help me. It did not happen because the simple fact is, when you are dead you are dead and thats it, zilch, nix, nothing, just complete oblivion.

i belive in life after death im sorry you dont bernie my boy

Chris I had exactly the same experience at around the same age except it was my Grandfather : )

Bernie Boy,

Your Dad and brother wouldn't be able to help you,They are spirits and can only watch over you.

We are on this earth to learn life's lessons which makes us a better person.No matter what is thrown at us we/most of us come out the other side and are a stronger person for having come through all the hard times.

You have had great courage to come through all that has been thrown at you over the years.

I wish you well and hope you have a happier life from now on.

Sue

Thanks Sue,

I do have a happy life now, I clawed my way back and am now married to a wonderful woman.
But my point is I had to do it myself, please don't say Dad and Brother made me strong enough to do it, It was HELL!!! they would never have let me endure that, they would have helped if they could. They couldn't, they are dead, finito, gone, forever. Just like I will be dead one day and I don't believe they will be waiting...............................................

Bernie how awful for you and well done for bringing yourself back to happiness.

I've had a few awful experiences myself which I moved through to be where I am now. I truly believe that it's our experiences that make us who and what we are now. Although I don't understand why these things happened to me I will when I meet my maker.

Your anger and pain comes through in your posting and you've obviously used these to keep yourself afloat. I'm so pleased you've found yourself a wonderful woman to live your life with.

I wouldn't try to convince you to change your mind on the afterlife but I will send up a prayer for you, your dad and your brother.
xx

Bernie,

I will certainly not say your Dad and brother made you strong enough to come through the hell you have lived through.

But Bernie,YOU have come through all that and are a stronger person for clawing your way through Your Dad and your brother passing over and all the troubles that have been thrown at you.

Everybody has events/deaths thrown at them in their life,most people get through it all.

Me and my 2 young daughters got through my Husband being murdered back in 1992 and it has made all 3 of us stronger people.

A week later after he died we were walking up to the police station and believe it or not,we heard my Hubby shout are names,as if to say I am ok.

I know I will meet all my family that have passed over one day when my time comes to leave this Earthly plane.

Bernie,I so glad that you have a wonderful wife and a happier life,

Just one little thing,if you ever dream about your Dad and brother and you can remember the dream,please have a notebook at the side of your bed so when you wake up,you can write the dream down.

I really do wish you all the best for the future.

Suexx

Hi Julie Ann, like you i feel my mom around me often, but i see her face and i am not asleep, if she is frowning there something wrong in the family, when she smiling all is okay this is been going on for years, when i was younger i was peeling potatos she said madam your peeling those to thick, when i do the potatos now i can feel mom behind me, i also have bad feelings when some thing is going to happen,

Joan G

My mum passed away at 9pm on a saturday evening, in Australia it was 6am sunday morning.
At 9.05pm, my sister called the hospital from Australia, she had just woken up because she thought she had a dream that my mum was in her bedroom. She said she could see mum's face and when she opened her eyes to look at the clock it was 6am Aus time, she said that she knew instantly that mum had passed and felt that mum had come to say goodbye to her because she was the only child not able to be with mum when she passed.
So, yes i believe that the spirit lives on somewhere and that one day i will meet up with all my loved ones again, i hope so anyway. xx

As I have said and I have witnessed, the biggest lie we are told is death. Our loved ones stay amongst us and connect when they can.

Dear Lilly, Sue and Blue Eyes,

Thanks for your kind remarks, I really do appreciate them. Although I remain unconvinced that there is life after death or that there is a supreme being looking after us, I am very happy if it gives you support and comfort.
Thanks for the offer of a prayer, but it goes right over my head, its the support of people like you and the love of my family that keep me going, not (in my view) superstition. I think Karl Marx was right about religion, "social control", promise the peasants a better life after they die, it keeps them in their place.

Thanks again for your kind remarks,

xxxxx Bernie

I would like to think we continue on,
but I was trained in the scientific method,
and as I say about all things religious and
spiritual - show me the proof
and I will believe!

xxxx mick

I only asked a few little questions and six pages later and 79 posts it is still going strong - lol

I hope we do meet those passed before as I have loads I want to ask and lots I want to say,

Well done Jessie, great debate. GR chat as it should be.

Michael.......................I think you have summed it up perfectly