Genealogy Chat

In a census with my ancestory family there are a couple of children with different surnames to the family name which puzzles me... and they both have different surnames to each other and they haven't got there mother's maiden name? Any suggestions???

Have you looked at the image because it should give the relationship to the head of the household.

Who are they? Where are they? Which census?

Can't offer suggestions without seeing the details..............

Reg

They could be nephews, nieces or grandchildren to the Head of Household perhaps?.
K

Or adopted even, perhaps. Definitely check the original to be sure that they're actually their sons/daughters and like has been said, 1841 doesn't give relationships (more's the pity).

Or kids being looked after by the mother of the household.

....or mother's children from a previous marriage?
I have sometimes seen these later listed as children of the 2nd husband in census....just to confuse us.

Gwyn

Come on Julie -post us the details!
lol

Laura

I have this quite a lot on my ancestry info - can be useful as it's often nieces/nephews/cousins etc and can be a clue into another branch

Hi All, thanks for replying... I have a Rachel Savery aged 4 pop up in my 1841 census, but no longer in my 1851 census, but in this census I have a Fanny Robinson pop up, age 6, never to pop up again. Then in 1871 I have a John Robinson pop up aged 28. Could John be Fanny???

I've 'lost' children and assumed they'd died and then further on my investigations they have popped up in extended families i.e. nieces and nephews to married sisters. Another child that turned up in one of my families turned out to be a child of a neighbour but who lived with my family from about 8 years old until late teens. His family didn't die or move, but my family did move and the neighbour's child moved with them for some unknown, never to be known, reason.

I can only see one Rachel Savery in 1841.......aged 40.

Unless the spelling is not as you have posted it..........

If you wish anyone to check these records, you will have to give us more info

Reg

Sorry, I spelt the name wrong, it is in fact Rachael Savery in the 1841 census, district Gloucestershire. The rest of the family are Wyatts.

With it being 1841, she might be no relation at all or she might belong to the mother's previous marriage or is a neice.

lol at Fanny being John, not really likely unless it's a massive mistranscription.. if it had been in the 2001 census I'd have said anything is possible but not likely back then ;-) Fanny may have died or it might have been a nickname (at 16 she might have gone into service or been married even)

1851???

Name: Rachael Savery
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England


Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 247
Household Members: Name Age
Rachael Savery 16
Elvia Turner 42
John Turner 44

Marriage?

Name: Rachel Savory
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newington
County: Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 230
John William Harris Coleman

Reg

What town are we looking at in 1851, please?

Great Barrington, Gloucester x

Julie, it says she's their granddaughter.

Name: Fanny Robinson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Barrington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Barrington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Robinson 6
Anne Wyatt 14
George Wyatt 24
John Wyatt 52
Martha Wyatt 16
Sarah Wyatt 11
Thomas Wyatt 9

She may have just been staying for a short time or her parents may have died/been unable to care for her.

O right, must be 1 of the Wyatt girls daughters then... so John Robinson in 1871 could be the grandson then???

Unless she took her mother's maiden name, and perhaps she could be George Wyatts???

It's possible that she had her mother's name if her parents never married, but I would have thought if they'd married it would have been unusual to take it as a surname, they usually pass it down as a middle name if they want to keep it in there as several of mine have done. Unusual but not unheard of I guess.