Genealogy Chat

Hi Reg,
Not sure if you've picked up my last message on here, but just to let you know, I have a couple of matches from someone else on this site, and he was so kind as to share trees, and I now know John Wyatt's wife c1801 was Anne Michael, so none the wiser on the Rachael Savery???

Hi Reg,
I'm still none the wiser really concerning Rachael Savery.
As you found out, she went on to be a servant at 16, but I still have no idea as to why she popped up in my tree. John Wyatt born 1801 married Anne( last name unknown to me as of yet), so I'm wondering if perhaps she might be Anne's neice???

Any thoughts on the info re Rachel?

Reg

There are 11 children listed for them on IGI, some are repeated entries because they have submitted AND extracted entries on there. I'll let you sort through that. Just search on the parents names "David Robinson & Mary" 1850 +/-10 in Gloucester. Ordinarily, the ones with the names all in Capitals are extracted and these are usually more accurate than the submitted, although they should still probably be checked from the source.

night & you're welcome :-)

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From the IGI, but is only a submitted entry (so can't be relied on without verification from parish records and/or certs)

David Robinson
Event(s):
Birth: 18 JUN 1815 Great Barrington, Gloucester, England

Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Wyatt
Marriage: 04 DEC 1841 Great Barrington, Gloucester, England

Think he might have died before the 1891 as he's not on that or 1901 but might be wrong (have been before lol)

1881 probable

Name: John Robinson
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Barrington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: Gravelly Hill Parkfield House
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Carter

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Robinson 36
Mary Roots 20
Elizabeth Smith 42
Elizabeth Smith 13
Frederick Smith 5
Nellie Smith 3
Thomas Smith 7
William Smith 37
William Smith 9

(can you tell I'm avoiding my own tree? lol)

So you're looking for a marriage between Mary Wyatt and David Robinson it would appear then.

1861 Census

Name: John Robinson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Barrington

Civil Parish: Holwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Holwell
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street address: Holwell Downs, Parish of Hollwell, Private Cottage

Occupation: Carter?

Condition as to marriage: unmarried

Registration district: Witney
Sub-registration district: Burford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
John Robinson 17

I think we've cracked it actually. I'm sure John Robinson and Fanny Robinson must be children of Mary Wyatt. George Wyatt is Mary Wyatt's brother so John Robinson would be his nephew, and earlier on in the census Fanny Robinson was staying with their father John Wyatt, and this would be his grand daughter. U c wat I mean? Thanks loads xxx

1851 Census

Name: John Robinson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Barrington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Barrington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Robinson 8
David Robinson 36 (messenger (odd man) born in Little Barrington)
John Robinson 7
Lucy Robinson 2
Mary Robinson 31
Sarah Robinson 4
William Robinson 1

O ye, and Ellen's husband pops back up in the next census (praps he was at Tesco's at the time) ha ha : 0

Ellen's last name Hinton... perhaps John had a sister who married a Robinson also....

Nephew... could be I guess, thanks. Just had a quick look for a marriage for Mary Wyatt... 1841 came up Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire. Couldn't view spouse tho : (

1871 census

John Wyatt (b1799 in bibury)

Name: John Wyatt
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Bibury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Great Barrington
Town: Great Barrington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton on the Water
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Tombs 14 (boarder)
Anne Wyatt 73
Anne Wyatt 34
John Wyatt 72


John Robinson:
Name: John Robinson
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Barrington, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Bk 18 Linford St.

Occupation: Labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
John Robinson 28
Annie Wyatt 4
Arthur Hy Wyatt 11
Ellen Wyatt 32
Ellen Wyatt 13
Ernest Jno Wyatt 2 months
Sarah Wyatt 3
Walter George Wyatt 9
William Wyatt 7

Not sure where Ellen's husband (presumably John's Uncle) is but it does say married not Widow and her youngest is only 2months old.

It's possible that Fanny & John are siblings, unless Ellen was a Robinson in which case Fanny & John are cousins. Confused yet? lol. You'd need birth certs to sort it out no doubt.

Found him... it says nephew.

There's a daughter Mary Wyatt who is quite alot older than her, born about 1821, so it could be possible she married a Mr Robinson and Fanny is there daughter???

I can't find your 1871 John Robinson. Is he born same place?

It's possible that she had her mother's name if her parents never married, but I would have thought if they'd married it would have been unusual to take it as a surname, they usually pass it down as a middle name if they want to keep it in there as several of mine have done. Unusual but not unheard of I guess.