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hmmmm, swore I typed 'born and married Manchester' ! Son Thomas married 1856-1860, but not with him in 1861 or 1871 ...

Thanks Jess! Your help is really appreciated :)

Laird- can't spot them , tried but..... sorry

Janet Ann Kempson 1858 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston Warwickshire James Kempson 1829 Wolverhampton Head Aston Warwickshire James Kempson 1855 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Aston Warwickshire Sarah Kempson 1833 Soleyhow Wife Aston Warwickshire Sarah Kempson 1860 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston Warwickshire James occupation is a 'smith' 17 Great Palmer St

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Thanks for the info. to date Jess Is there any info on Harriet Pilsbury born 1815 in the 1861 and/or before , know who te g/kids are tring to find the kids Cheers DEBS

Hi Jess Thanks again for your help on Debra's thread regard Ketteringham. Could you please have a crack at a marriage between William Ketteringham born abt 1861 Middleton Norfolk and Emma (fanny) ? born abt 1847 Wildmore Fen Lincolnshire. Emma's date of birth is from the 1901 census so could be wrong. I'm afraid thats all i really have on these two. Any help would be great, Thanks Kirsty x

Sorry nearly forgot and the 1871 for Ralph and Eliza please got '61 and '81 ,'91 ta very muchly debs

Kirsty- can't remeber off hand when they appear together in census- is this about right? Ketteringham, William Thomas 1899 June Marriages Freebridge Lynn Norfolk Mountain, Emma Jane 1899 June Marriages Freebridge Lynn Norfolk Quarter: June Year: 1899 District: Freebridge Lynn County: Norfolk Volume: 4b Page: 677

Deb, i know you have! I cant find them in 1871 and from memory can't recall the details- Help me to help you please! Where was he in 61, when/where and who did he marry? where was he in 81 what might have happened in the gap? Jess

Many thanks Jess - hey-ho. Give up then !

Hi Jess Regrad Ketteringham. Thank you so much for your help, that has just opened up a whole new route! Thanks Again Kirsty :))

Kirsty- is this the correct lot in 1901? Alice Ketteringham 11 Middleton, Norfolk, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Emma Ketteringham 34 Wildmore Fen, Lincolnshire, England Wife Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Esther Ketteringham 7 Wildmore Fen, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Florence Ketteringham 2 Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire Nellie Ketteringham 6 Wildmore Fen, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Scrivelsby Lincolnshire William Ketteringham 38 Middleton, Norfolk, England Head Scrivelsby Lincolnshire

Kirsty- Might Be...only might...# Name: Mountain, Fanny Age in 1891: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Boston, Lincolnshire Civil parish: Streatham Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonards County: London Source information: RG12/456 Registration district: Wandsworth Sub registration district: Streatham ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 142 Page: 45 ( 1881- Name: Fanny Mountain Age in 1881: 13 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Relationship to head-of-household: Servant Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Female Where born: Boston, Lincoln, England Address: 65 High Street Civil parish: Boston County/Island: Lincolnshire Condition as to marriage: Unknown Occupation: Under Nurse Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Source information: RG11/3218 Registration district: Boston Sub-registration district: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 45 Page: 9 will try 1871

Kirsty - if this is the right Emma/Fanny, also shows her mothers maiden name in the form of a M-in-law! Ann T Mountain 1862 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Boston Lincolnshire Charles Mountain 1866 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Charlotte A Mountain 1864 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Boston Lincolnshire Edwin Mountain 1858 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Fanny Mountain 1868 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Boston Lincolnshire James H Mountain 1870 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Mary A Mountain 1831 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Wife Boston Lincolnshire Thomas Mountain 1828 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Head Boston Lincolnshire William Mountain 1856 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Son Boston Lincolnshire Ann Twell 1800 Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Mother-in-law Boston Lincolnshire

Sorry for the confusion yep i see the Harriet Pilsbury born 1815 ;-) (just trying to find the kids now , i know she was born HARRIET MURRAY , CHRISTENED 19/2/1815 , MARRIED RALPH PILSBURY 23/7/1832) so I am trying to find any kids born to them , would be between 1832 (going from wedding date) and 1861 where they are alone , but then in the '71 sensus , RALPH appears to have died and HARRIET is caring for the g/kids. Then for Eliza (nee HADLEY) and RALPH THEY MARRIED 8/10/1860 Have the 1861 info from you (in Biltson , Staffordshire) Got the 1881 with kids in Ettinghall Lane , Wolverhampton Got them in the 1891 again in wolverhampton Then have Eliza in 1901 , again Wolverhampton with Ralph missing (assumed dead at this time) But 1871 , nothing , you left that for a bit. (got all me prinouts sorted now so I know where I am) Cheers again Debs

Hi Jess WOW!! Thanks for all that!, Its the correct Ketteringhams in the 1901 census, i shall look through the rest of the info and see what it show etc. Thank you so much for taking the time to look it all up Love Kirsty :))

Emma -not what you wanted to see i am sure Name: Lord, Ellen Age in 1891: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where Born: Islington, London Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Balls Pond Town: County: London Source information: RG12/164 Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 39 Page: 30 Lord, Clara abt 1874 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Edward abt 1882 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, Elizabeth abt 1872 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Ellen abt 1885 Islington, London Granddaughter Islington London living at 44 dorset St BUT living at no 40, Lord, Amy C abt 1883 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Edward abt 1882 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, William A abt 1889 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, Amy abt 1856 Islington, London Wife Islington London Lord, George abt 1852 Holborn, London Head Islington London Lord, Henry G abt 1880 Islington, London Son Islington London

Hi Jess I think actually you may have the right family in a sense. Ellen's mother is called Emma. Although she isn't on this census I am wondering if she may be on the 1871. Could you check this for me under George Lord(1852, Holborn). Thankyou for looking that up for me though, it is very interesting as you may have found the next generation that I didn't think I was going to get to. Emma

emma will look later- work calls now 'till 6 jess