Genealogy Chat

I am new to all this, I have managed to navigate my way round the 1901 census, but where are all the others and how do I access them and do I have to pay? Thanks

Hi Suzanne the 1881 census is free on the familysearch site. The others from 1851-1901 you will have to pay for. There are some counties free online (just google the county you are looking for) People on here are very helpful if you post the names and dates (as much info as possible) you may get look-ups from GR members. Georgina.

Suzanne Give some names year and place of birth and we maybe able to find people for you. Sue

That is fantastic, thanks for the replies. Edward Farrand born 1845 married Elizabeth ? born 1844 - looking for parents lived in Breden, Worcestershire Paul Farrand born 1870/1 lived in manchester, trying to find the link. Looking for the husband of Martha Hewertson they had 4 children , Sarah born 1875, Charles 1881, Ernest 1884 and Arthur (born 1887) All born and lived in Manchester area. Also name on a my great grandmothers gravestone, we know nothing about Beatrice Farrand died at 8 months, on grave of Lillian Farrand nee Williams (born 1880). THANK YOU to all those who have posted messages to me, how do I find this information? I am slightly confused about the Edward and Isabella Farrand line though as I had the siblings differently.

1) Paul Farrands birth reg - any idea of his parents names? Name: Farrand, Paul Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1870 District: Manchester (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 264 ----------------------------------------------------------------- hopefully its Edward and Isabella from 1871 census Margaret Denson abt 1850 Manchester, Lancashire, England Servant Manchester Lancashire Albert Ed Farrand abt 1868 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Manchester Lancashire Clara E Farrand abt 1866 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Edward Farrand abt 1845 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Head Manchester Lancashire Eva Farrand abt 1869 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Isabella Farrand abt 1844 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Manchester Lancashire >Paul Farrand abt 1870 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Manchester Lancashire Sarah E Farrand abt 1865 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire Alice Foulds abt 1859 Manchester, Lancashire, England Nurse Manchester Lancashire

in 1861 Edward was still at home unmarried Alfred Farrand abt 1848 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Son Bradford Yorkshire Edward Farrand abt 1845 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Son Bradford Yorkshire Elizabeth Farrand abt 1813 Draughton Skipton, Yorkshire, England Wife Bradford Yorkshire Elsher Farrand abt 1849 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bradford Yorkshire Henry Farrand abt 1817 Aldermondbury, Yorkshire, England Head Bradford Yorkshire Maria E O Farrand abt 1858 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Bradford Yorkshire

This could be the family in the 1881 census - mistranscribed as Hewitson Charles H. Hewitson abt 1880 Salford Son 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England Frederick M. Hewitson abt 1873 Salford Son 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England John Wm. Hewitson abt 1871 Salford Son 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England Martha Hewitson abt 1851 Menford, Cheshire, England Wife 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England Matthew Hewitson abt 1878 Salford Son 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England Matthew M. Hewitson abt 1847 Manchester Head 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England Sarah E. Hewitson abt 1875 Salford Daughter 8 Brighton St, Salford, Lancashire, England Source information: RG11/3973 Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 58 Folio: 10 Page: 11

and 1891 Hewetson, Arthur abt 1887 Salford, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire Hewetson, Charles abt 1881 Salford, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire Hewetson, Ernest abt 1884 Salford, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire Hewetson, Frederick abt 1873 Salford, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire Hewetson, Martha abt 1850 Knutsford, Cheshire, England Wife Salford Lancashire Hewetson, Matthew abt 1846 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Salford Lancashire Hewetson, Sarah E abt 1875 Salford, Lancashire, England Daughter Salford Lancashire Source information: RG12/3224 Registration district: Salford Sub registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Folio: 101 Page: 12

Ref Beatrice births.. View Record Farrand, Beatrice 1890 September Births Saddleworth West Riding of Yorkshire View Record FARRAND, Beatrice 1907 March Births Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire View Record Farrand, Beatrice May 1897 June Births Keighley (1837-1946) West Riding of Yorkshire cant find a corresponding death though- birth may help narrow possibilities on 1837

1871 census 1871 census John W Hewertson abt 1870 Hulme, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire Martha Hewertson abt 1849 Knutsford, Cheshire, England Wife Salford Lancashire Matthew M Hewertson abt 1846 Beswick, Lancashire, England Head Salford Lancashire Source information: RG10/4022 Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 84 Page: 7

This could be Matthew with his parents on 1851 census Have checked image and I believe it says Hewertson John Hewerksot abt 1814 Crosby, Westmorland, England Head Beswick Lancashire John H Hewerksot abt 1848 Beswick, Lancashire, England Son Beswick Lancashire Mary L Hewerksot abt 1821 Middlesex, England Wife Beswick Lancashire Matthew M Hewerksot abt 1846 Beswick, Lancashire, England Son Beswick Lancashire Thomas W Hewerksot abt 1850 Beswick, Lancashire, England Son Beswick Lancashire Elizabeth Spencer abt 1833 Staffordshire, England Servant Beswick Lancashire Source information: HO107/2231 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Newton ED, institution, or vessel: 3b Folio: 389 Page: 7 Can´t seem to find Matthew on 1861 census - perhaps someone else will have more luck!

THANK YOU so so much to everyone, how do I find this info out? The Farrand (Edward and Isabella) line is slightly different to how I had it down from the 1901 census.

Could this be your Matthew on the 1861 census ? I think the image says Shop Boy - not Step Boy ***Matthew Hewertson abt 1847 Manchester Step Boy Hulme Lancashire Jane Snibson abt 1808 Settle, Yorkshire, England Wife Hulme Lancashire Jane Snibson abt 1841 Manchester Daughter Hulme Lancashire Thomas Snibson abt 1811 Clay Crop, Derbyshire, England Head Hulme Lancashire Source information: RG9/2899 Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 55 Folio: 37 Page: 21

It could be, all I have now thanks to you is that he was born 1846 and married Martha and they had 5 children, where do you search? I cant thank you enough for this

I also think the Beatrice link is 1907 does it say who the parents are?

Have just checked the IGI for you ..... website www()familysearch(.)org .... (remove brackets) - and have found a christening for Matthew Hewertson and a marriage of Matthew Hewartson to Martha Hulme. Marriages: MATTHEW MARSHALL HEWARTSON Spouse: MARTHA HULME Marriage: 06 JUN 1869 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England and MATTHEW MARSHALL HEWERTSON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1845 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN HEWERTSON Family Mother: MARY MARIA

From BMD - this appears to be Matthews birth. If you ordered his birth certificate you would find his mother´s maiden name. Hewertson, Matthew Marshall Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1845 District: Manchester (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 20 Page: 761

Trying to trace Matthew´s wife - Martha Hulme This is the only one I can find in 1861 census, Martha´s place of birth given as Dukinfield. On later census place of birth given as Knutsford. I don´t know whether these places are near each other - someone may be able to help on this. Therefore this is only a possible Agnes Hulme abt 1856 Dukinfield, Cheshire, England Daughter Dukinfield Lancashire George Hulme abt 1854 Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England Son Dukinfield Lancashire John Hulme abt 1858 Dukinfield, Cheshire, England Son Dukinfield Lancashire *** Martha Hulme abt 1851 Dukinfield, Cheshire, England Daughter Dukinfield Lancashire Mary Hulme abt 1829 Marple, Cheshire, England Wife Dukinfield Lancashire Oliver Hulme abt 1828 Hyde, Cheshire, England Head Dukinfield Lancashire Source information: RG9/2996 Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration district: Dukinfield ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Folio: 75 Page: 2 I have just found this on the IGI - gives parents as Samuel and Hannah - so this is another possibility. MARTHA HULME Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 27 MAY 1849 St John'S, Knutsford, Cheshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SAMUEL Family Mother: HANNAH HULME in which case this is her on the 1851census 1851 census Ellen Hulme abt 1846 N Knutsford, Cheshire, England Daughter Nether Knutsford Cheshire Hannah Hulme abt 1809 Plumbley, Cheshire, England Head Nether Knutsford Cheshire Hannah Hulme abt 1840 N Knutsford, Cheshire, England Daughter Nether Knutsford Cheshire Maria Hulme abt 1844 N Knutsford, Cheshire, England Daughter Nether Knutsford Cheshire *** Martha Hulme abt 1849 N Knutsford, Cheshire, England Daughter Nether Knutsford Cheshire Wm Hulme abt 1831 Tabley, Cheshire, England Son Nether Knutsford Cheshire You´ll have to start investing in some certificates to sort out the right ones!!

Thank you Elaine, this is amazing, I know that his Father could have been William Arthur Marshall who was the 6th Chief Constable of Salford/Manchester. Have no idea about his mother apart from what you told me and no family to ask, so maybe the next step is birth certificates. Where do i order them from?

certificates can be ordered on line from http://www.gro(.)gov(.)uk/gro/content/ - remove brackets Cost 7 pounds each, providing you give the GRO reference. Didn´t quite understand your last message - whose father could have been William Arthur Marshall