Genealogy Chat

1851 > 1901 + B D & M tell me what you know and i'll see what i can do

Hallo Jess No requests, I just hope you are feeling better! love nell

Hi Jess, if you could please have a look at 1901 for George Thomas Luck born 26/5/1866 in Northumberland Heath Erith Kent, I found his son John Luck born 5/2/1881in Crayford Kent ,he was residing in Dartford Union Workhouse in 1901 but don't seem to be able to find George, maybe a fresh pair of eyes will be able to see something i can't. Thanks Ann Ps on the 1901 John's future mother-in law was also in the workhouse Ellen Caseleton born 1847. John married Mary Ann Caseleton 16/10/1910 in Swanley Kent

ann no luck with your luck i'm afaid

Thanks anyway Jess, and i did'nt know you had been under the weather hope you are feeling better now ? all the best for 2006 Ann

ann Libby mabel , i hope~1901 Alfred H Clevitt abt 1895 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex Charles Clevitt abt 1826 Clapham, Sussex, England Head Angmering Sussex Charles Clevitt abt 1877 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex Herbert D Clevitt abt 1889 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex Jane Clevitt abt 1855 Houghton, Sussex, England Wife Angmering Sussex Jane E Clevitt abt 1887 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Mabel A Clevitt abt 1891 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Stephen A Clevitt abt 1810 Angmering, Sussex, England Grandson Angmering Sussex William Clevitt abt 1879 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex Address > (interesting!)''Cripple gate otherwise called Cucktolds gate, Fox Road'' fathers occupation=Ord, Ag labourer (note his age against that of his wife! and the fact that there is a grandson younger than the youngest children!) ========================================= 1891 Clevett, Charles abt 1828 Clapham, Sussex, England Head Angmering Sussex Clevett, Charles abt 1877 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex Clevett, Edith E abt 1885 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Clevett, Harriett L abt 1881 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Clevett, Herbert D abt 1889 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex Clevett, Jane abt 1855 Houghton, Sussex, England Wife Angmering Sussex Clevett, Jane E abt 1887 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Clevett, Mabel A abt 1891 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Clevett, Mary abt 1883 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex address household 78 Cripples gate again , an ag lab ======================================== 1881 if it is to be believed, the wife is one year older than the oldest son.......... Arthur Charles Clevett abt 1856 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England Charles Clevett abt 1826 Clapham, Sussex, England Head Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England Charles Clevett abt 1877 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England Harriett Louisa Clevett abt 1880 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England Jane Clevett abt 1855 Houghton, Sussex, England Wife Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England William Clevett abt 1879 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England Louisa Sarah Greenyer abt 1857 Goring, Sussex, England Visitor Cripples Gate, Angmering, Sussex, England =========================================== 1871 looks to be the right family . although mistranscribed Athur Clasett abt 1855 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Kent Charles Clasett abt 1826 Clapham, Sussex, England Head Angmering Kent John Clasett abt 1850 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Kent Luke Clasett abt 1853 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Kent Mary Clasett abt 1822 Angmering, Sussex, England Wife Angmering Kent Sarah Jane Clasett abt 1864 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Kent Thomas Clasett abt 1860 Angmering, Sussex, England Son Angmering Kent AND they were living at Cripples Gate...... ========================================= looks about right for marys death Name: CLEVETT, Mary Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 52 Quarter: March Year: 1874 District: East Preston County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 235

Hi Jess. sorry to hear you had been poorly, glad you are feeling better. If it's not too much trouble could you look on the 1851 census for Robert Grieveson b1850, Sunderland, Co. Durham. Thank you Patsy Ann

JHi Jess sorry to know you had been poorly. I have been contacted by someone re George Horne born 1862 Moreton in Marsh. Gloucestershire. parents Thomas and Sarah Horne grocers. I wonder if he is on any census. I am told he married Clarrissa Gollop(sp.) and had a daughter Clara. It is a bit embarassing because on my family tree I had omitted poor George as I had assumed he had died young. Any help gratefully received.

Hello Jess I wonder if you can find my Whyman family in 1851 please. MARK born 1818 Ramsey Maria born 1820 Ware George b. 1837 John richard b.1841 Mark b. 1846 They have been found in 1861 living in Peterborough but although Maria is down as Married, Mark isn't there. George , JOhn and Mark as in 1851 plus four more children born since 1851, the youngest is Maria 8 monjths old. They cannot be found on 1851 anywhere unless you know different !! Would be very grateful if you could find them. Mark senior didn't die until 1875.. Many thanks Jean

hi thanks for your offer im looking for alice whitehouse bn 1895 walsall staffs and henry whitehouse bn 1842 walsall staffs patrick j keough bn 1892 walsall staffs thanks very much kelly

patsy ann nearest i can find is this one Joseph Greveson abt 1829 Stone Bridge, Durham, England Head Monkwearmouth Shore Durham Margaret Greveson abt 1820 Monk Wearmouth, Durham, England Wife Monkwearmouth Shore Durham Robt Greveson abt 1849 Monk Wearmouth, Durham, England Son Monkwearmouth Shore Durham

Annie Rn how embarrasing ~ did he have any siblings? have tried 1871 and they are not obvious~ any idea where or when he married the said Clarissa

Jean ~ looks reasonable, but again no mark ~ how odd! he must to and fro , rather by be say in prison as they keep on reproducing!Says husband carpenter , but he defo isnt there. ~~1851~~ Ann Whisman abt 1843 Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire George Whisman abt 1839 Isle of Ely, Ely Son Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire John Whisman abt 1841 Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire Maria Whisman abt 1821 Ware, Hertfordshire, England Wife Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire Maria Whisman abt 1844 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire Mark Whisman abt 1846 Ramsey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire address priory lane

Jessie from 1881 census High Street Moreton in Marsh. siblings Alfred 1857 Charles 1865 Harriet 1859 Henrietta 1851 mother Sarah 1821 Evesham Thomas 1818 Moreton Walter 1861 but no sign of George.

kelly ~ why did you want this looked up again? Joseph Reynolds abt 1876 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son-in-law Walsall Staffordshire Alfred Whitehouse abt 1886 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Alice Whitehouse abt 1895 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire Henry Whitehouse abt 1842 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Staffordshire Henry Whitehouse abt 1876 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Jane Whitehouse abt 1852 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Staffordshire Maria Whitehouse abt 1878 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire May Whitehouse abt 1888 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire Sarah Whitehouse abt 1881 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire William Whitehouse abt 1884 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Source information: RG13/2699 folio 104 p 68 ---------------------------- 1891 ~ i hope Whitehouse, Alfred abt 1886 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, Henry abt 1846 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, Henry abt 1876 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, Jane abt 1857 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, Maria abt 1878 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, Matthar abt 1885 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, May abt 1888 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, Sarah abt 1881 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Foreign Staffordshire Whitehouse, William abt 1883 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Foreign Staffordshire address Stafford St ( i think) Source information: RG12/2252 folio 91 P 23 ----------------------------------------------------------- 1881 Annie Maria Whitehouse abt 1878 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter 111 Stafford St 6 Court 4, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Henry Whitehouse abt 1844 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head 111 Stafford St 6 Court 4, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Henry Whitehouse abt 1876 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son 111 Stafford St 6 Court 4, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Jane Whitehouse abt 1854 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife 111 Stafford St 6 Court 4, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Sarah Whitehouse abt 1881 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter 111 Stafford St 6 Court 4, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Source information: RG11/2825 F124 P 6 ----------------------------------------------------------------- 1871~ hopefully Alfred Whitehouse abt 1865 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Henry Whitehouse abt 1844 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire John Whitehouse abt 1859 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire Lavinia Whitehouse abt 1854 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Staffordshire sarah Whitehouse abt 1821 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Staffordshire William Whitehouse abt 1818 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Staffordshire William Whitehouse abt 1856 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Staffordshire address 42 Hill St Source information: RG10/2961 F6 P6 -------------------------------------------------------------- 1861~ loks right Ann Whitehouse abt 1849 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Borough Staffordshire Henry Whitehouse abt 1845 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Borough Staffordshire John Whitehouse abt 1860 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Borough Staffordshire Louisa Whitehouse abt 1855 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Borough Staffordshire Phoebe Whitehouse abt 1847 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Borough Staffordshire Sarah Whitehouse abt 1826 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Borough Staffordshire William Whitehouse abt 1821 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Borough Staffordshire William Whitehouse abt 1857 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Borough Staffordshire Source information: RG9/2013 F155 p29 ========================== 1851 which i wouldnt have found unless i had worked my way back gradually Ann Mary abt 1849 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Borough Staffordshire Janne Pavuel abt 1830 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Lodger Walsall Borough Staffordshire Henry Whitehorne abt 1844 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Son Walsall Borough Staffordshire Phoebe Whitehorne abt 1846 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Walsall Borough Staffordshire Sarah Whitehorne abt 1822 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Walsall Borough Staffordshire William Whitehorne abt 1816 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Head Walsall Borough Staffordshire Source information: HO107/2023 foilo 647 P 28

Annie rn ~ the 1881 to work back from ...and hope J.O. Baddeley abt 1859 Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England Nephew High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Alfred Horne abt 1857 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Son High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Charles Horne abt 1865 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Son High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Harriet Horne abt 1859 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Henrietta Horne abt 1855 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Sarah Horne abt 1821 Evesham, Worcestershire, England Wife High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Thomas Horne abt 1818 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Head High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Walter Horne abt 1861 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Son High Street, Moreton In Marsh, Gloucestershire, England ======================================= 1871 henrietta Name: Henrietta Horne Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Pupil ~ Addison College ( all young ladies!) Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Moreton in Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish or Township: Kensington --------------------------------- and the rest...... Caroline Eastberg abt 1853 Blockley, Worcestershire, England Servant Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Charles Horne abt 1865 Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Son Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Frank H Horne abt 1847 Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Son Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire >>George Horne abt 1863 Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Son Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Harriet Horne abt 1860 Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Sarah Horne abt 1821 Evesham, Worcestershire, England Wife Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Thomas Horne abt 1818 Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Head Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Walter Horne abt 1862 Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England Son Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Mary Pearce abt 1850 Stanghter, Gloucestershire, England Servant Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire James Rogers abt 1854 Northwich, Gloucestershire, England Servant Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire George Smith abt 1846 Bourton on the Water, Gloucestershire, England Servant Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire Walter Steward abt 1854 Ludlow Servant Moreton in the Marsh Gloucestershire address hight st fathers occupation is wine merchant ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 George Alice B. Farmer abt 1873 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Chequers Farm, Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, England Florence E. Farmer abt 1869 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Chequers Farm, Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, England >>George Horne abt 1863 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Chequers Farm, Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, England Louisa Truby abt 1855 Moreton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chequers Farm, Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, England William L. Truby abt 1850 Little Risington, Gloucestershire, England Head Chequers Farm, Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, England Elizabeth Wright abt 1862 Cutsdean, Worcestershire, England Servant Chequers Farm, Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, England

Jess you are sooo clever finding the Whismans. Am sure thats them, the first names are the same but as you said Mark isn't there. At least I know now where they were, When they couldn't be found thought they have gone abroad. I suppose a carpenter could have travelled around but he must have been somwhere!!! Many many thanks, Jean

Hi Jess, Could you please look for John Henry Speakman in 1901. In 1891aged 19 he was living with his Stepfather and Family ( Edward Dudley) in Farnworth. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Gail

Gail , born where?

SORRY i didnt explain what i meant with the henry could you please do him in 1851 thanks again