Florence Mary Batt

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Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 7,002 Send Message	nameslessone	Report	4 Dec 2022 14:25
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 7,002 Send Message	Although it won’t explain why you can’t find Florence in the 1939 if George signed up for WW11 at the earliest possible he could be in barracks and therefore not on the 1939
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,272 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	4 Dec 2022 16:41
	Is this the George you are assuming was Florence's husband? George Mathieson in the UK, British Army World War I Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: George Mathieson Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1887 Birth Place: Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Age: 19 Document Year: 1906 Regimental Number: 769 Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 4 Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier George Mathieson Self (Head) Robert Mathieson Father That man was in the RAMC. Painter and decorator by occupation in 1906. <<<<<<<<<< Florence's husband was a house painter and decorator in 1921 Census.<<<<<<<<< George Mathieson in the 1911 England Census Name: George Mathieson Age in 1911: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Birth Place: Greenock, Renfrewshire Civil Parish: Aldershot County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: Mcgregor Barracks, Stanhope Lines, Aldershot Marital status: Single Rank: Private Military Unit: Royal Army Medical Corps Registration District Number: 34 Sub-registration District: Aldershot ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Piece: 3123 There is no matching birth in Scotland.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,272 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	4 Dec 2022 17:54
	?? George Mathieson in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: George Mathieson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Mathieson Mother's Name: Jane Mathieson Gender: Male Where born: Maryhill, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 564/2 Registration district: Greenock West Civil parish: Greenock West Town: Greenock County: Renfrewshire Address: 34 Nelson St West Occupation: Scholar ED: 34 Household schedule number: 111 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1901_198 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Robert Mathieson 53 Head - painter and decorator Jane Mathieson 41 Wife George Mathieson 13 Son George Mathieson in the 1891 Scotland Census Name: George Mathieson Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Mathieson Mother's Name: Jane Mathieson Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 564/2 Registration district: Greenock West Civil parish: Greenock West Town: Greenock County: Renfrewshire Address: 34 Nelson St ED: 34 Household schedule number: 152 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1891_183 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Robert Mathieson 43 Head - house painter Jane Mathieson 41 Wife - Irvine, Ayrshire George Mathieson 4 Son Marion Black 33 Sister-in-law Robert Mathieson in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 Name: Robert Mathieson Gender: Male Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1872 Marriage Place: Irvine, Ayr, Scotland Spouse: Janie Maitland FHL Film Number: 300230
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	4 Dec 2022 20:30
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	1921 Census Of England & Wales 43 Bush Street, Chatham, Kent, England Household members (4 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer George Mathewson Head Male 1888 32 Greenock, Scotland House Painter & Decorator Borstol Institution Borstal Florence Mary Mathewson Wife Female 1895 25 Chatham, Kent, England Housewife - George Sydney Mathewson Son Male 1917 3 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England - - Robert Mathewson Son Male 1919 1 Chatham, Kent, England - -
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	4 Dec 2022 20:42
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Marriage of the WRONG FMB June 5, at the parish church Eastleigh, by the Rev. Canon J. Gordon Crowdy. John Young. L. and S.W.R., Eastleigh. to Florence Mary Batt., the Gables, Winchester. 16 June 1917 - Hampshire Independent - Southampton, Hampshire, England
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 7,002 Send Message	nameslessone	Report	4 Dec 2022 21:15
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 7,002 Send Message	Keith has already told us that this is the wrong Florence
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,272 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	4 Dec 2022 22:07
	Re the George Mathieson in 1891 and 1901 censuses above - there's another George Mathieson: George Mathieson in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: George Mathieson Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Mathieson Mother's Name: Robina Mathieson Gender: Male Where born: Renfrew, renfrewsh Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock East Civil parish: Greenock East County: Renfrewshire Address: 22 St Lawrence St Occupation: Message Boy ED: 32 Household schedule number: 47 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1901_194 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Robert Mathieson 45 Head - brass finisher Robina Mathieson 42 Wife George Mathieson 14 Son Mary Mathieson 13 Daur (Daughter) Jessie Mathieson 7 Daur (Daughter) Walter Mathieson 2 Son However, the one with mother Jane seems the more likely to be Florence's husband, as his father Robert was a painter and decorator too. Also, that Robert's father was named Lawrence/Laurence, which could account for George & Florence's son Laurence Thomas's name.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	5 Dec 2022 13:50
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Kent Burials Strood, Old & Cuxton Road Cemeteries, Kent, England Transcript of George's record First name(s) George County Kent Last name Mathieson Country England Sex Male Grave reference Section U Grave No. 188 (C) Birth year 1887 Notes Entry 7482 Age at death 53 Record source Strood, Kent, Cuxton Road Cemetery burials 1883-2005 Burial year 1940 Record set Kent Burials Burial date 05 Nov 1940 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Occupation Painter & decorator Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death place Died at 5 Martin Rd, Strood. Removed from Wykeham St, Strood. Collections from England, Great Britain Florence May Barrett in 1950 Kent Burials Strood, Old & Cuxton Road Cemeteries, Kent, England Transcript of Florence May's record First name(s) Florence May County Kent Last name Barrett Country England Sex Female Grave reference Section U Grave No. 188 (C) Birth year 1895 Notes Entry 903 Age at death 55 Record source Strood, Kent, Cuxton Road Cemetery burials 1883-2005 Burial year 1950 Record set Kent Burials Burial date 06 Feb 1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Occupation Housewife Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death place Died at St Bart's Hospital Rochester. Removed from Strood. Collections from England, Great Britain Place Strood, Old & Cuxton Road Cemeteries
Member Since: February 2012 Posts: 473 Send Message	KeithG	Report	23 Dec 2022 16:40
	The certificates arrived this morning. They confirm a) Florence's father as Thomas and that he was a stoker which matches, b) that the Barrett marriage was indeed Florence's second marriage, and c) that her middle name was clearly Mary (and not May) on both certificates. Thank you, yet again, ArgyllGran, that gives me some further leads to follow up.
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