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Yes that’s correct for My Great Aunt Lil (As we called her) she was a very independent woman and got herself a job in a shop and a place to live, before she fell in love and married! Very forward thinking for the time.

Yes that’s correct for My Great Aunt Lil (As we called her) she was a very independent woman and got herself a job in a shop and a place to live, before she fell in love and married! Very forward thinking for the time.

Wonder if her marriage cert would help with saying if her dad was still alive

If he was deceased then the time frame would narrow down

Yes that’s a good point! I’ll see. If I can request that.

Yes that’s a good point! I’ll see. If I can request that.

Whats the given address on William Roys birth certificate.?

The address is 5 Richmond Road, Shepherds Bush.


There are various names at that address in the ERs over the years, but not Yates, and no Florence..

Robert Flowers is there in 1913 -1915 . Can't see an ER for 1916.

In the 1911 census, it's Robert Flower and family.
Also (same address but different household) William and Anne Elizabeth Stringer.
Also Robert and Beatrice Aldridge - a third household.

The fourth flat has Alfred Alexander and family. One of his daughters is named Ellen Margaret , age 12, born London .
Probably coincidence - she's Ellen Margaret at birth too - no mention of the name Florence:

Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
Alexander Ellen Margaret Kensington 1a 119

She's also Ellen Margaret at baptism and on her father's army pension record in 1914.

I don't think she's Florence E M.

He was a tool maker in 1916 so can’t have signed up for the war

There’s no ww1 records for him but then many records haven’t survived

interesting birth reg.


Registration Date:
Jul 1921
[Aug 1921]
[Sep 1921]
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:
Bingham
Inferred County:
Nottinghamshire
Mother's Maiden Name:
***Stone ***
Volume Number:
7b
Page Number:
985


1939 register.

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Name:
Lilian A Yates
Gender:
Female
Marital status:
Single
Birth Date:
9 Jul 1921
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
No.5 Council Houses
Residence Place:
Bingham , Nottinghamshire , England
Occupation:
Grocer's Shop Assist??
Schedule Number:
37
Sub Schedule Number:
3
Enumeration District:
ROEW
Registration district:
433.Bingham
Household Members:
Name
Frederick Baker
Florence Baker
Lilian A Yates


Newspaper clip.

Doc True

SCARKINCTOX
The Wedding of .Miss Lilian Yates to Mr. N. Bampton. Thoroion, look place Scarring ion church on Monday, the Vicar officiallrg. The bride was given away Mr. F. Baker. Mr. F. Bampton wag b.su man and Miss •othciatcd tile A reception was held
04 September 1942 - Grantham Journal - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England .

Lilian was given away by F Baker,,,,,,,,(Fred?)


and an entry for Willliam.






Doc True

YATES – RUSSON
Hawksworth, yesterday, between Miss Sylvia Louisa Russon, only-daughter of Mr Harry Russon, of Hawksworth, and Mr. William Roy Yates, only son of Mrs. F. Baker, of Scarrington. The Rev. A. J. Hallmark, Vicar Scarrington, officiated. The bride, who was
01 November 1938 - Nottingham Journal - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)

Cumming
Florence E
Watts
Bingham
7b
1321

Stone
Florence E
Watts
Bingham
7b
1321

Watts
Wilfrid
Cumming
Bingham
7b
1321

Watts
Wilfrid
Stone
Bingham
7b
1321

Related.?

Maybe Helena instead of Elena:

Deaths Dec 1941
Baker Florence H M 54 Bingham 7b 600

Rose

Fits with a Nov 1889 birthdate:

Deaths Sep 1950 (>99%)
Baker Frederick R 60 Bingham 3c 80

Rose

her on bail for six months. Mc('ue was found guilty of stealing WHO STOLE THE BANJO ? 6s. sd. from the person of William Yates, a butcher, of Rivercourt Road, Hammersmith, in a taxi-cab between Tottenham Court Road and Eastbourne Terrace. Mr. Samuel Coleman
05 August 1938 - Kensington Post - London, London, England

William R may have been in Hammersmith prior to his marriage,

1939.



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Name:
William Yates
Gender:
Male
Marital status:
Married
Birth Date:
19 Aug 1885
Residence Year:
1939
Address:
32
Residence Place:
Fulham, London , England
Occupation:
Engineering Coolmaker (Heavy---image states Toolmaker.
Schedule Number:
83
Sub Schedule Number:
1
Enumeration District:
AGAW
Registration district:
4-1
Household Members:
Name
William Yates
Elsie M Painter
Elsie M Painter

?
1891 census
Florence H M Worley
Gender: Female
Age: 3
Relationship: Niece
Birth Year: 1888
Birth Place: Hyson Green, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Radford
Residence Place: Nottingham, Radford, Nottinghamshire, England
Sub registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, Institution or Vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2690
Folio: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John W W Stone 31
Elizabeth Stone 31
Florence H M Worley 3
Harriet M Stone 24

Marriage
Elizabeth Worley
Registration Year: 1885
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 393
Records on Page:
John Walter W Stone
Elizabeth Worley


John W W Stone
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Stone
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Hyson Green
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:bricklayer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3184
Folio: 187
Page Number: 28
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members:
Name Age
John W W Stone 41
Elizabeth Stone 41
Florence E Morley 13 niece. Wrongly down as Morley on the actual census page

1911 census
Florance Stone
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
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County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 10 Hovenden Street Hyson Green Nottg
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Cigar Maker
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 20606
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Stone 52
Elizebeth Stone 52
Florance Stone 22
May Stone 5
Elizebeth Stone 2

Walter is probably John Walter

STONE, FLORENCE ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 472

May is possibly Mary

STONE, MARY -
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 474

,
WORLEY, FLORENCE HELENA MARGARET -
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 288


You would need the cert to see who her mother was

1891 census above shows Elizabeth Stone's birthplace as Aslockton, Notts.

1871 -

Elizabeth Worley
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Worley
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Aslocton Nottinghamshire England
Civil Parish: Scarrington
Town: Scarrington
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bingham
Sub-registration district: Bingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 3546
Folio: 106
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
George Worley 33
Ann Worley 44
Elizabeth Worley 10
Edith Worley 7
Ann Worley 5
John Lane 14


George Woller
in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Woller
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Wooler
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarrington, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Aslockton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Bingham
Sub-registration district: Bingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 49
Piece: 2484
Folio: 59
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
George Woller 22
Ann Wooler 30
William Lane 7 - son
Elizabeth Wooler 9/12



Parents' marriage:

George Worley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Worley
Registration Year: 1859
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Bingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 665
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Lane
George Worley

WORLEY, ELIZABETH ms LANE
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in BINGHAM UNION Volume 07B Page 307

Don’t think Elizabeth Worley is her mum as Florence was born after Elizabeth married
Plus she is listed as niece not stepdaughter

Think one of the other sisters may be Florences mum

You need the birth certificates for its info

It does look like Elizabeth and John Stone took her in and she was known as stone at one time
They don’t appear to have had any children so brought Florence up

It’s also looks like she never married

Kay, that snippet of the newspaper article was fantastic! Showed it my dad and he was chuffed.. it gave him an insight to his parents wedding.

Speaking to my dad this afternoon, he said for some reason he though that His auntie Flo (Florence born 1908) was actually adopted and also he remembers visiting a lady called Mary when he was little, so this could tie in.

Just need to dig a bit more. I’ll be requesting a few more certs.

Thank you