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Susan

Susan Report 10 Sep 2016 20:46

Hi , can anyone give me some help please?
my great great grandfather was James Richard Rowe born 1857 St Germans, he married Marion Burgess and they were living in London (Fulham) I am unable to find any record of his death
I would be very grateful for any help
Thank you in advance
Kind Regards
Sue

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 20:56

I cannot find any records ...........

please can you say where he was born ........... county/country

when and where did he marry Marion Burgess

when were they living in Fulham

Have you find him on any UK censuses ....... dates and link or c&p'd

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:01

Is this James Richard Rowe in 1912??

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965e

Name: James Richard Rowe
Year: 1912
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham
Street address: 3 Gorleston street

Of course there is no Marion with him ..... before women got the vote :-(

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:02

She is on this one ..............

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: James Richard Rowe
Year: 1922
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham East

Address:- 3 Grove Terrace

Also living there Marion Rowe

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2016 21:02

Is this him ?

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Barossa Terrace, Antony, St Germans, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mahala Rowe Head Married Female 26 1835 Dressmaker Wales
George J F Rowe Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Torpoint, Cornwall, England
William H Rowe Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Torpoint, Cornwall, England
James R Rowe Son - Male 3 1858 - Torpoint, Cornwall, England
Charles H Rowe Son - Male 2 1859 - Torpoint, Cornwall, England

Edit - no, later census show him to be the James R born 1863 !

Susan

Susan Report 10 Sep 2016 21:04

Thank you for your reply
He was born in St Germans in Cornwall
they married in St George Hanover Square the 1901 census have them living at 72 Grove Terrace Fulham and the 1911 census states they lived at
3 Grove Terrace Kensington
Kind Regards

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:06

This seems to be the last record on ancestry for the Electoral for James and Marion

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: James Richard Rowe
Year: 1937
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Putney and Streatham
Street address: 49 Hawkesbury Road

Also living there:- Marian Rowe Rowe (sic)

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Susan

Susan Report 10 Sep 2016 21:08

Hi greyghost
thank you for your reply
I do think they are all connected it all revolves around the St Germans area, then James moved the family to Fulham
thank you again

Susan

Susan Report 10 Sep 2016 21:11

Hi SylvialnCanada, thank you the info most grateful

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:11

so this is the 1911??

1911 Census

Name: James Rowe
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wall, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Fulham
Search Photos: Search for 'Fulham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 3 Grove Terrace, West Kensington W
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: CONDUCTOR ON BUS
Registration district: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration district: North East Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 305

James Rowe 49
Marian Rowe 54 b.ca 1857, Southam, Southampton
Mabel Rowe 18 b.ca 1893, Kensington
James Burgess Rowe 12 b.ca 1899, Kensington
Hannah Louisa Green 18 Visitor
Nellie Elizabeth Prosser 19 Visitor

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Susan

Susan Report 10 Sep 2016 21:12

Hi that's the one thank you

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:18

????? death registration

Deaths Mar 1943 (>99%)

Rowe James R 79 Wandsworth 1d 436


that would put his birth year at about 1864 ........... but wrong ages are not uncommon on death certificates as the information given is only "as known to the informant"

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2016 21:20

Possibly the James from the 1911 census, looking at occupation

Household (1 Person)
8 Chesson Road , Fulham, London, England
Attach to tree View original imagePrint
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
James R Rowe 26 Jan 1863 Male Bus Conductor (Oa Pensioner Widowed 116 1
Ref: RG101/0140C/008/30 Letter Code:

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:21

Good find greyghost!!

I didn't find that

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:25

the son also died in 1943

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995

Name: James Burgess Rowe
Death Date: 18 Nov 1943
Death Place: London, England
Probate Date: 17 Dec 1943
Registry: Llandudno

from image:-
of 10 Byfield Gardens, Barnes, London, S.W 13

died at Royal Hospital, Richmond, Surrey

Administration to Beatrice May Rowe, Widow

Effects £322


you would have to buy the will to find out any more details

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Susan

Susan Report 10 Sep 2016 21:27

Thank you both,
I am so grateful
Kind Regards
Sue

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:30

James Richard's birth registration ...............

Name: James Richard Rowe
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: St Germans
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 48

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:35

Marriage registration ..........

Marriages Jun 1887 (>99%)

Burgess Marian St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 847 S
Rowe James Richard St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 847

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2016 21:39

Found the 1939 by using the later birth dates of 1862/3 which seem to be consistent on the census etc.

Poster gave 1858 which is why I posted the 1861 census that I did.

Where did you get 1858 from Susan as there was a James Richard Rowe born 1857 St Germans as well as 1863

This I expect is the 1863 one - all born St German's

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Newport, St German, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Ann Rowe Head - Female 45 1826 - Cornwall, England
Richard Tucker Father - Male 78 1793 - Cornwall, England
James Rowe Son - Male 8 1863 - Cornwall, England

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Sep 2016 21:41

Marian's death

Deaths Jun 1939 (>99%)

Rowe Marian 67 Fulham 1a 303


b.ca 1857

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

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