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From the burial index
Name: Albert Edward Russell
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1917
Age: 2
Death Date: abt 1919
Burial Date: 22 Jul 1919
Burial Place: Erith, Kent, England
Cemetery: Erith Cemetery
Grave number: E/616
The image says he died at Guy’s Hospital SE
Ancestry links it to
Name: Albert E Russall
Birth Date: abt 1917
Date of Registration: Sep 1919
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 6
Which does fit for a death at Guy’s.
The gro index image is terribly 'inky'. The transcribers have done very well to extract what they have!
Baptism? Not sure if this was posted earlier
Name: Albert Edward Russell
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1917
Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1917
Baptism Place: Erith, Kent, England
Parish as it Appears: Erith, Christ Church
Chapelry: Christ Church
Father: William Russell
Mother: Beatrice Ethel Russell
Entry no 1302
Address 41 Brook St, N.H.
Father a Fitter’s labourer
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det
once again thank you so much
im sending for his death cert to get the cause of death such a young person
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I did wonder about Spanish Flu, but its unlikely he'd be sent to Guys for that!
A large number of OH's family were born & lived around Erith/N.H/Belvedere etc. His father was born at 212 Brook Street, although they later moved to 174 (unless the numbering changed)
His mother's side can be found in the area from the early 1800's!
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I was born the drive off brook street small world when I get the death cert I will let you know what caused my uncles death
his brother Thomas {you found his burial for me} ive got his death cert got it in front of me now cause of death acute cholera gastro enteritis vomiting and diarahee poor lad was only 6 years old he and albert is one of my mums brothers
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Shan't tell you where my first home as a baby was, but it was 5 mins walk away from yours ;-) We moved before I started school!
Strangely, I had memories of walking to the corner shop on Brook Street which was next door/close to OH's grandparents. Looking on the map, it seems I was mistaken. It was a loooong time ago!
Sad about little Thomas' death. Now-a-days we say to 'starve' someone with a norovirus or try to give them replacement drinks. I suppose, back in the day, ideas were different
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i thought you were a fellow Erith person ive been meaning to ask who is oh??
yes its terrible what happened to Thomas and albert yes they did things differently
back in those days
my grandparents lost 2 children very young ages Thomas 6 yrs old and albert just ovr 2yrs of age and in a short space of time
I have a few mins ago joined ancestry monthly subs for premium
at some time later could you please explain to me how I find some of my rellies and ancestors {ive got some alredy from 9 years of researching }b m d in london kent cornwall devon
thank you
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OH is an accepted abbreviation for Other Half - husband/wife/partner (of either/same gender) ;-)
Although we are quite happy to dig out public records relating to other people, we are mindful that it can also happen to us. Consequently when we post on the boards, we try to disguise certain identifying details.
Ancestry to supply a guide on using their site. It might be worth spending time following it.
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/HelpAndAdvice/UsingWebsite
If you wanted to jump straight to the Bexley Records, on the Home page, click on Card Catalogue on the right hand side. Then put Bexley in the keyword search box.
Bexley, Kent, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1558-1812 Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Bexley, Kent, England, Cemetery Registers, 1879-1985 Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Bexley, Kent, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Bexley, Kent, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Bexley, Kent, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1925
You could do the same for London, and perhaps filter with Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish. You may find orginal images of baptisms, marriages and early burials. Ditto for Cornwall & Devon although the coverage is not so good.
As you build your tree, Ancestry automatically sorts through its data base and suggest records which may be appropriate. These are indicated by 'quivering leaves'. Some are way off beam! Beware of Ancestral Tree hints - some are absoute rubbish. One person comes up with an idea, and other people copy without thought. Although those results are shown in grey-scale, by clicking on the Ancestors name you can get to the profile page. Always look to see what records they have attached to make your own descision. If there are no records attached, it frequently means the tree owner no longer subscribes. For that reason as much as any, try to save images to your own computer.
We have a 'family day' tomorrow, so I shan't be around until the evening, if at all.
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whenever you are on here again
could I ask if you could trace the burial details for my 2 x great grandfather George
Kirby he was a police sergeant with police commendations
he died 26 January 1856 aged just 35 years Bexley new town kent
I had no luck finding him on ancestry but ive prob done it wrong
any info on him appreciated
is there anyway I could also trace his police career
thank you
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Hi David
I’ve been looking through the images from the PR in case his name was mistranscribed, but nothing even remotely similar. Its worth mentioning that the parish records of St John the Baptist in Erith were badly damaged in a fire in the 1870’s. Apparently they were stored in an out-building while work was being carried out on the church. The vicar of the time tried to recreate the records from the burnt fragments but probably concentrated on marriages and baptisms than burials.
The earliest records available on-line for council owned cemeteries are
Erith 1894
Bexleyheath 1879
Sidcup 1912
The closest burial on Ancestry is in the London England Deaths & Burials 1813-1980
George Kirby
Record Type: Burial
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Death Date: abt 1856
Burial Date: 30 Jan 1856
Burial Place: Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
The image certainly looks to show his age as 39.
Does the DC give his residence at the time of his death? Have you found him on the 1851 or his widow on 1861? Is it possible that he might have been taken to a cemetery closer to where his parents or family lived?
You could play around with
http://freereg2.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new
Kent police, as such, was formed in 1857, so too early for George’s records to have been kept with them. Ideally, you should contact the Kent Police Museum, but their website says that they are currently without an Archivist.
http://www.kent.police.uk/about_us/Kent_Police_Museum.html
If he was in the London Met (and my knowledge doesn’t extend to that) there is a guide on the NA
http://tiny.cc/szp46x
I’ve had a quick look at MEPO 4. Return of deaths in the Metropolitan Police Force, but there’s nothing obvious. Have a play around with all the links.
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det
thank you again
I will have a look at what you have found
his death cert states he died Francis Street Bexley new town kent
I am going to have a look at census now
had a look at the 1851 he was living with his wife jane briggs at myrtle place Woolwich kent
I then looked at the 1861 census{knowing George died at 1856 } for his widow she marr in 1859 to willam bagshaw so nothing for george
just went on a website Deceasd online nunhead cemetery burials but not found
never mind I will carry on searching
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