Genealogy Chat

Perhaps Florence wasn't the child of Mr Lane.

That would go some way to explaining the birth being so far removed from the family's normal place of abode

Thank you all for sticking with this.........

Chris
A big Thank you for all those excellent links. My friend will be really pleased with the information.
I see in one of the newspaper accounts that a ship was named, so she can check that too.

I don't know when Henry LANE died, other than that Mary Ann LANE is shown as a widow in 1881.


Now we have another problem with this family and wonder if anyone can help.

For years my friend has searched in vain for the marriage of Mary Ann LANE's parents ie. John BELCHAMBER and Mary Ann COPPLE, but guessed it to be early 1840s.
She has found mentioned on Ancestry a marriage in Bromley (Kent) on 4 June 1843 between John BELLCHAMBERS and Mary Ann COPPLE, but this doesn't feature on freebmd images.
How can she get a copy of that marriage please?
We know from experience that local Record Offices need a location.
Is 'Bromley' enough?


Gwyn

Could mary ann have been married before, so on the birth her maiden name was Coppel, but she married under a different married name?

I can see that mariage on ancestry

John Bellchambers
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:4 Jun 1843
Marriage Place:Bromley, Kent, England
Spouse: Mary Ann Copple
FHL Film Number:1042456

Could this just have been a user submitted entry?

Does your friend have Mary Ann's (jnr) birth certificate to confirm her mmn?

Baptism
County Kent
Place Deptford
Church St Paul
RegisterNumber 503
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 07 Sep 1823
Forename Mary Ann
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Maria
FatherSurname COPEEL
MotherSurname
Abode Gravel Pits
FatherOccupation Labr

(possible Mother?)

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Flip

Yes, my friend has birth cert. of Mary Ann, born 24 September 1849 and baptised 21 October 1849 at St Paul's, Deptford.
I'm not sure what sort of record / register that marriage comes from.....

Chris
Thank you. I believe that to be the mother of the above Mary Ann.

Gwyn

Flip - Re: "I'm not sure what sort of record / register that marriage comes from"

Go to https://familysearch.org/catalog-search and search for the film # in the record, here:
FHL Film Number:1042456

You'll see:
Parish registers of Bromley, 1558-1902, 1558-1880
Authors:Church of England. Parish Church of Bromley (Kent) (Main Author)
Format: Manuscript/Manuscript on Film
Language: English
Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1982-1998
Physical: on 7 microfilm reels ; 35 mm.
References: (Digital Collection) England, Kent, parish registers, 1538-1911

Notes
[...] Microfilm of original records in the Kent County Record Office, Maidstone, and in the Central Library in Bromley.
Central Library call no.: P47/1/9-10, 21-23, 34, 36-37.
The parish church of Bromley is called St. Peter and St. Paul.

Film Notes (This family history center has 7 of 7 films/fiche.)
Note Location Collection/Shelf Film/DGS
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General register (baptisms, 1558-1714; marriages, 1575-1734; burials, 1578-1678); Baptisms, 1558-1844. Family History Library British Film 1042453 Items 3 - 7
Baptisms, 1844-1877; Marriages, 1735-1837. Family History Library British Film 1042454
Marriages, 1837-1880. Family History Library British Film 1042455
Burials, 1678-1880; Banns, 1838-1875. Family History Library British Film 1042456
Baptisms, 1877-1900; Marriages, 1881-1900; Banns, 1875-1902; Burials, 1875-1900. Family History Library British Film 2145342
Vestry minutes, 1703-1801. Family History Library British Film 1042457
Vestry minutes (cont.), 1792-1833. Family History Library British Film 1042458 Items 1 - 4



So it's actually from the banns book

So, maybe they didn't actually get married - or did so at a later date - although I can't see a marriage anywhere.

Thank you for your help..
So it was a Banns book rather than a marriage register...

It might still be worth viewing the filmed original book, in the hope that there is mention of a home parish for either of them and / or whether the marriage actually took place.

Gwyn